WSB vs MotoGP

[number2]

why does Ducati do so well in WSB but can't get it together in MotoGp?

[tye1138]

Actually, the only reason Ducati isn't doing well in MotoGP is because of a controversial chassis design, of which no other teams use. If they would just use the same chassis design of everyone else, I'm fairly sure they would be on the box every weekend.

The reason why they are winning in World Superbike is simply the fact, their bike is easy to ride and doesn't chew up tires like the 4 cylinder machines. So where the other guys tend to "fade" the Ducati's best laptimes are right at the end. Because its easier to ride, older guys, with vast amount of experience can get on the bike and do wonders with it. Checa, Haga, Bayliss, all older guys, all with MotoGP experience and all championship contenders on Ducati.

[whippersnapper]

Tye nice succinct explanation although if it was just the chassis what is the explanation for the Suzuki not being on the box at all let alone every weekend?

[tye1138]

Originally Posted by whippersnapper

Tye nice succinct explanation although if it was just the chassis what is the explanation for the Suzuki not being on the box at all let alone every weekend?

Maybe they haven't had the best rider? Vermeulen, Hopper and Bautista arn't really the best, where Ducati has had the best/proven riders; Capirossi, Stoner, Hayden, Melandri and now Rossi.

Just a guess...

[jfusaro]

Originally Posted by whippersnapper

Tye nice succinct explanation although if it was just the chassis what is the explanation for the Suzuki not being on the box at all let alone every weekend?

Ah very interesting fact

[1fast750ss]

Originally Posted by whippersnapper

Tye nice succinct explanation although if it was just the chassis what is the explanation for the Suzuki not being on the box at all let alone every weekend?

Suzuki has been known for having the least amount of power in MotoGP. IIRC, I read an article a few years back that the chassis has always been solid, however the AMA bikes produced more power than the MotoGP bikes. They put both of them on the same track to find the AMA bikes besting the GP bikes.

[NSP]

Originally Posted by whippersnapper

Tye nice succinct explanation although if it was just the chassis what is the explanation for the Suzuki not being on the box at all let alone every weekend?

Originally Posted by tye1138

Maybe they haven't had the best rider? Vermeulen, Hopper and Bautista arn't really the best, where Ducati has had the best/proven riders; Capirossi, Stoner, Hayden, Melandri and now Rossi.

Just a guess...

what Tye said....plus not as much of a budget/effort compared to Honda/Yamaha/Ducati.

[whippersnapper]

Originally Posted by 1fast750ss

Suzuki has been known for having the least amount of power in MotoGP. IIRC, I read an article a few years back that the chassis has always been solid, however the AMA bikes produced more power than the MotoGP bikes. They put both of them on the same track to find the AMA bikes besting the GP bikes.

Don't think so. At Laguna the fastest AMA Suzuki superbike qualifying time was over 2 seconds slower than the Suzuki MotoGP bike

[Dmitry]

Originally Posted by NSP

what Tye said....plus not as much of a budget/effort compared to Honda/Yamaha/Ducati.

+1 on resources, been told once that HRC division of Honda was larger than entire Suzuki corporation.

[tye1138]

The statistic that scares me is; Yamaha, Honda, Kawasaki and Suzuki employ more people developing new pistons then Ducati has total employees at their factory.

Then you look at how many championships Ducati has won over those 4 japanese brands in the superbike class in the last 20 years and you realize, you don't need thousands of people developing pistons! LOL