Casey stoner on the 1000's - Ducati.ms

cb4265 · Jul 8th, 2011, 9:19 pm

motogp.com · Stoner on 1000cc development and riding style

I have even more respect for him now, & it seems he is quite adept at bike setup & developement, something he is criticised for, being blamed for the Ducati being a dog that only he could ride.

Take time to read this artilce, it is very insightful, & may change your opinion of Stoner.

Craig

crashman · Jul 8th, 2011, 9:26 pm

I am pretty sure the usual gang of suspects will be along soon to bag on Stoner no matter what the kid says or does.....
Good article with what seems to be honest answers. Its refreshing to see.

TheX · Jul 8th, 2011, 9:36 pm

Let the haters hate, he is the top of the heap right now and that's going to bring out the people that want to knock him down in any way possible.

Viperguy · Jul 9th, 2011, 5:23 am

I guess as long as his 1000 is built by christians ....he will do ok on it.

Adrian749S · Jul 9th, 2011, 11:40 am

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Originally Posted by cb4265

Take time to read this artilce, it is very insightful, & may change your opinion of Stoner.

Craig

Nope didn't change a thing.

Ryan... · Jul 9th, 2011, 12:09 pm

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Originally Posted by Viperguy

I guess as long as his 1000 is built by christians ....he will do ok on it.

For the love of god, let it go

I'm excited for the new bikes, sounds like it should be more interesting than the races we've grown accustomed to in the past 4 years!

Its interesting too, that Stoner says the 1000cc bikes will require more throttle control to keep the tire spin and and wheelies under control, and he's already known for his near perfect throttle control. Anyone else think this change to bigger bikes will only help Stoner get quicker?

freighttriain · Jul 9th, 2011, 12:47 pm

i don't think much will change...

the guys that are fast now, will be the same guys kicking ass next year..
as long as their is only one make of tire... limited gas quantities...

seems like it will be more a matter of Simo staying upright... and Spies getting in a space-ship...

DaC · Jul 9th, 2011, 7:48 pm

"I think it's not the bikes that are reducing the passing, I think it's just become such a professional sport that riders don't make mistakes like they used to. Everyone has to train their butts off now just to ride these bikes. In the past, if you go back long enough, people were smoking before they got on the grid and they weren't tired at the end of the race. These bikes physically take a lot more out of you. And I think the level of rider, in comparison with another era, has just picked up, because everyone knows what you need to do now. And so you're not seeing people run wide and other people duck up in the inside. They're making the line, they're hitting their points, and they're not having the problems like they used to"

Sorry guys, but I think the kid's showing his immaturity with this statement. To me it comes off as rather arrogant, although I'm sure he's not alone and has plenty of company with the lot of modern MotoGP prima donnas.

When 160lbs is considered FAT, yeah...you probably do need to do your fair share of "training" to keep up.

The guys who came before him had a lot less technology into making them fast. Just the tires and suspension ALONE are leaps ahead of what the guys 10 years ago had. Maybe I'm over reacting, but...respect.

Ryan... · Jul 9th, 2011, 8:02 pm

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Originally Posted by DaC

Sorry guys, but I think the kid's showing his immaturity with this statement. To me it comes off as rather arrogant, although I'm sure he's not alone and has plenty of company with the lot of modern MotoGP prima donnas.

When 160lbs is considered FAT, yeah...you probably do need to do your fair share of "training" to keep up.

The guys who came before him had a lot less technology into making them fast. Just the tires and suspension ALONE are leaps ahead of what the guys 10 years ago had. Maybe I'm over reacting, but...respect.

I didn't take it as Stoner being disrespectful at all :/

If you look at any sport that requires talent from the past 40 years to the present, you'll notice quite the difference. Its more common now to see athletes competing at the highest level in extraordinary condition. Mixed martial arts is probably the best example; even 10 years ago the top heavy weights were guys in their 40s with no real training, hopping in a cage and punching each other silly. Nowadays the top tier fighters have 6 packs and cut weight to make 265lbs. They have black belts in ju-jitsu, muy thai and kick boxing training, etc.. Sports are competitive, and with the competition comes the increase in skill needed to excel.

What Stoner is saying is exactly what I just wrote; riders can no longer rely on the opponents to miss their lines or screw up. The riders are in peak physical shape and dedicate their entire lives to being as close to perfect as possible. Not that the riders of old didn't do that, but the bar has been raised.

freighttriain · Jul 9th, 2011, 8:42 pm

one should also consider the differences from the past as far as economics as well.... Racers back in the 80's and most of the early 90's did not make a great living at racing these bikes. Most made money from endorsements... which hasn't changed... but to be a champion these days is opening the door to being a millionaire as well....

20 years ago the economic incentive was a lot different...