GP-11 Write up - Ducati.ms

rcrob · May 9th, 2011, 9:20 am

Here's a good write-up on the GP-11 in GPweek:

GP Week

it is on page 38-39.

dv8ryan · May 9th, 2011, 9:59 am

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Originally Posted by rcrob

Here's a good write-up on the GP-11 in GPweek:

GP Week

it is on page 38-39.

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Ritter · May 9th, 2011, 10:11 am

Thanks, good read.

rcrob · May 9th, 2011, 10:25 am

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Matt_P · May 9th, 2011, 10:54 am

Well written article.

What is still resonating after reading that article is the comment made on other factories having the entire length of the beam to play with... It'll be interesting to see when (or shall I say if) Ducati is able to find a solution.

rcrob · May 9th, 2011, 12:26 pm

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Originally Posted by Matt_P

Well written article.

What is still resonating after reading that article is the comment made on other factories having the entire length of the beam to play with... It'll be interesting to see when (or shall I say if) Ducati is able to find a solution.

Actually, the biggest thing that jumps out of that article should be the un-willingness to deviate from what is known to work. There is a known formula and everyone just sticks with it because that will at least get you in the ballpark. The old adage "If you want to win next season start with what worked this season" applies here. Ducati is taking a different course and I applaud them for that. Ducati is charting new ground and they don't have the 30 years of experience that the other manufacturer's do with the Aluminum beam frames. They have done fairly well to be where they are with their first iteration carbon frame and there really aren't any technical reasons that they can't get it to work, it is just finding that right combination.

lehmanb · May 9th, 2011, 2:28 pm

Good article. I like how they mentioned that Ducati is the only manufacture that is doing something outside of the norm. Actually pushing boundaries. Sure, it might not work perfectly right now, but I have high hopes for the next race with the new frame.

Any word on a new transmission yet? My friend said he read they were working on it, but I cant find any news on the net about it.

Lehman

rcrob · May 9th, 2011, 4:58 pm

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Originally Posted by lehmanb

Good article. I like how they mentioned that Ducati is the only manufacture that is doing something outside of the norm. Actually pushing boundaries. Sure, it might not work perfectly right now, but I have high hopes for the next race with the new frame.

Any word on a new transmission yet? My friend said he read they were working on it, but I cant find any news on the net about it.

Lehman

I'd guess any transmission update would be rolled out with an engine upgrade. As it is we won't see the engine upgrades they tested for a couple of rounds, so it is possible that you could see something with that upgrade. I somewhat doubt that a transmission will appear on the bike this season though as they have bigger fish to fry and the transmission is probably lower down on the problem list compared to the chassis issues and the ambiguity of the tuneability. I suspect the greatest part of the time deficit to the competition can be found in the chassis set-up and that is where they will concentrate their efforts.

Tard · May 10th, 2011, 12:28 am

Interesting article, and I also applaud Ducati for taking a different course.
What I wonder though, is why it's has taken so damn long for Ducati to start experimenting with different stiffness ratios of the carbon fibre? They say they have more technicians this year, (JB and Rossi), but surely they could have identified this issue, and been working on that aspect of their concept a long time ago.

freighttriain · May 10th, 2011, 2:30 am

perhaps Stoner could have gotten through to the technicians by taking a 2 x 4 to some of their heads?.... from day one it seemed that the immediate complaint about the "new" frame idea was that it was too stiff... and the front end feel was complete horse-shit.... i believe that we were all reading that quoted through out the entire season last year..

it is too bad that the stubbornness of the italian tech's at Ducati failed to do anything about it for Stoner... perhaps the idea that it's on the new Superbike, and it doesn't read well for the fans of Ducati.... it has led them to work on it a bit more?... hard to tell, but it does seem like Ducati took their sweet ass time getting around to admitting that their was a problem. Seems only after Rossi failed to set the world on fire last winter on the first test, and Stoner took off like a bat from hell on the Honda, was anything truly done. It has still taken 5 months from the time Rossi rode the darn thing to see a true change to the frame manufacturing... pick it up boys....