What the FORK is That? - Ducati.ms - The Ultimate Ducati Forum
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old May 3rd, 2016, 7:26 pm Thread Starter
Official Sponsor
 
SPORT_CLASSIC_SPECIALTIES's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: AKA, JC/PAK BIKES,
Posts: 6,032
What the FORK is That?

Took the following for a side by side comaprison
SC Marzocchi, Ohlins S4RS, Ohlins M1100, Sport Classic Ohlins

L to R
Marzocchi Bitubo Conversion, PS-Ohlins (corrected from:M1100) Ohlins, Stock Marzocchi, S4Rs



L-R
Stock Marzocchi, SC Ohlins, S4RS




and side by side mounted



Have a look at the gallery here for the basics
Fork Comparison Marzocchi, Ohlins S4RS, M1100, Sport classic Ohlins

unedited gallery has much more info
unedited S4Rs / M1100 / PS ohlins / Marzocchi / Marzocchi Bitubo conversion

and Radial caliper with Stock Spokes wheel will clear but it is too clsoe for riad use. if you ride gently it may never hit
but the spokes will eventually hit the caliper
mikethepole likes this.

jc@jcpakbikes.com
sportclassicspecialties.com
JCPAKBIKES.COM
FACEBOOK JC/PAK BIKES
FACEBOOK GT1000
FACEBOOK PS1000LE

FLEDA TRON LEGACY
ALPINA WHEELS USA
AELLA-CASUNO / NCR / DISCACCIATI / CARBON DRY / BITUBO / MUPO

Last edited by SPORT_CLASSIC_SPECIALTIES; May 4th, 2016 at 9:30 am.
SPORT_CLASSIC_SPECIALTIES is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old May 3rd, 2016, 11:11 pm
unM0derator
 
RedST's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: SF, CA, USA
Posts: 2,808
Images: 3
Are you sure those M1100 forks are from that bike? I have a set and they are radial mount brakes and TiN coated. Those look like the standard PSLE forks. Pic for reference.

Geoff
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	image_1462335648841.jpeg
Views:	211
Size:	252.6 KB
ID:	703841  

Last edited by RedST; May 3rd, 2016 at 11:21 pm.
RedST is offline  
post #3 of 20 (permalink) Old May 3rd, 2016, 11:44 pm
Member
 
swoardrider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Santa Cruz, Ca, USA
Posts: 33
I think you are right redst, I don't think those are off a monster. I think they are the Paul Smart Ohlins.
swoardrider is offline  
 
post #4 of 20 (permalink) Old May 4th, 2016, 12:05 am
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: San Marcos (San Diego), CA, USA
Posts: 959
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedST View Post
Are you sure those M1100 forks are from that bike? I have a set and they are radial mount brakes and TiN coated. Those look like the standard PSLE forks. Pic for reference.

Geoff
1100S are radial from what I remember. A direct swap same as the S4RS, just slightly longer tube (let it stick up a little above top triple, to retain same geometry). Radial mount brakes, with the fender mounting in new superbike fashion (2 in front).

2007 Ducati 1098S (Track Only)
2006 Ducati Sport Classic 1000 (Sold)
2005 Honda CRF450R
Agro is offline  
post #5 of 20 (permalink) Old May 4th, 2016, 2:50 am
Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Nice, , France
Posts: 98
i was waiting for this post since a long time ! Thanks a lot JC, it's just perfect !

For sure, the second fork on the 1st and 2nd pictures is a Paul Smart OEM Ohlins and not a M1100 Ohlins

The radial fork with radial caliper is clear with OEM spok wheels but very near of the spok ... in a hard ride or hard brake, for sure the spok will touch the caliper

My question : is there a difference in size between different radial calipers ? maybe one model would be more slim and let more space with the spok ?
Brizio is offline  
post #6 of 20 (permalink) Old May 4th, 2016, 9:26 am Thread Starter
Official Sponsor
 
SPORT_CLASSIC_SPECIALTIES's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: AKA, JC/PAK BIKES,
Posts: 6,032
My Bad, it was in the unedited link

The longer one with the radial is the Monster 1100


unedited S4Rs / M1100 / PS ohlins / Marzocchi / Marzocchi Bitubo conversion

Quote:
Originally Posted by swoardrider View Post
I think you are right redst, I don't think those are off a monster. I think they are the Paul Smart Ohlins.

jc@jcpakbikes.com
sportclassicspecialties.com
JCPAKBIKES.COM
FACEBOOK JC/PAK BIKES
FACEBOOK GT1000
FACEBOOK PS1000LE

FLEDA TRON LEGACY
ALPINA WHEELS USA
AELLA-CASUNO / NCR / DISCACCIATI / CARBON DRY / BITUBO / MUPO
SPORT_CLASSIC_SPECIALTIES is offline  
post #7 of 20 (permalink) Old May 4th, 2016, 9:32 am Thread Starter
Official Sponsor
 
SPORT_CLASSIC_SPECIALTIES's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: AKA, JC/PAK BIKES,
Posts: 6,032
The second from teh left is a PS ohlins. I added shots of the M1100.

The Radial Claipers I have had in hand so far all seem to share the same dimensions. I think this is would be a standard for OEM use

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brizio View Post
i was waiting for this post since a long time ! Thanks a lot JC, it's just perfect !

For sure, the second fork on the 1st and 2nd pictures is a Paul Smart OEM Ohlins and not a M1100 Ohlins

The radial fork with radial caliper is clear with OEM spok wheels but very near of the spok ... in a hard ride or hard brake, for sure the spok will touch the caliper

My question : is there a difference in size between different radial calipers ? maybe one model would be more slim and let more space with the spok ?

jc@jcpakbikes.com
sportclassicspecialties.com
JCPAKBIKES.COM
FACEBOOK JC/PAK BIKES
FACEBOOK GT1000
FACEBOOK PS1000LE

FLEDA TRON LEGACY
ALPINA WHEELS USA
AELLA-CASUNO / NCR / DISCACCIATI / CARBON DRY / BITUBO / MUPO
SPORT_CLASSIC_SPECIALTIES is offline  
post #8 of 20 (permalink) Old May 4th, 2016, 9:48 am
Member
 
swoardrider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Santa Cruz, Ca, USA
Posts: 33
Any idea if there's internal differences between the 3 different Ohlins? Stroke, spring rates, valving, etc?
swoardrider is offline  
post #9 of 20 (permalink) Old May 4th, 2016, 10:12 am Thread Starter
Official Sponsor
 
SPORT_CLASSIC_SPECIALTIES's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: AKA, JC/PAK BIKES,
Posts: 6,032
I have been told the internals for the Paul Smart is not the high end stuff from Ohlins. I suppose it may be the same with the S4RS.
Nevertheless
I have never had a bad experience with most forks if adjusted properly
Although.....
I test ride lots of customers bikes and there have been times that the stock Marzocchi has surprised me. Maybe it was built on wednesday? And the Paul Smart forks rode like crap.
With proper set up and adjustments any suspension can be made to be a little better. It takes patience and effort with suspension. It has never been a immediate change because too many factors to work with.





Quote:
Originally Posted by swoardrider View Post
Any idea if there's internal differences between the 3 different Ohlins? Stroke, spring rates, valving, etc?
Riderjeff likes this.

jc@jcpakbikes.com
sportclassicspecialties.com
JCPAKBIKES.COM
FACEBOOK JC/PAK BIKES
FACEBOOK GT1000
FACEBOOK PS1000LE

FLEDA TRON LEGACY
ALPINA WHEELS USA
AELLA-CASUNO / NCR / DISCACCIATI / CARBON DRY / BITUBO / MUPO
SPORT_CLASSIC_SPECIALTIES is offline  
post #10 of 20 (permalink) Old May 4th, 2016, 1:00 pm
unM0derator
 
RedST's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: SF, CA, USA
Posts: 2,808
Images: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by JCPakBikes View Post
I have been told the internals for the Paul Smart is not the high end stuff from Ohlins. I suppose it may be the same with the S4RS.
Nevertheless
I have never had a bad experience with most forks if adjusted properly
Although.....
I test ride lots of customers bikes and there have been times that the stock Marzocchi has surprised me. Maybe it was built on wednesday? And the Paul Smart forks rode like crap.
FYI: the M1100S is one of the most precise and smooth Ducs I've ever ridden. The forks seemed very well set from the factory and the SC is very close in weight and geometry, so wouldn't expect much difference with just a swap and new brakes. The critical dimension, by the way, for radial mounts is the disc diameter and needing spacers to increase radius. They all share the same lateral offset if memory serves, and that was one of the goals for the switchover.

Geoff
RedST is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Ducati.ms - The Ultimate Ducati Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Fork upgrade questions psyopper Supersport 16 May 25th, 2016 6:20 pm
Motion Pro and Race Tech Fork Tools moto Motowheels 2 Apr 24th, 2016 7:20 pm
Motion Pro and Race Tech Fork Tools moto Motowheels 1 Feb 17th, 2016 9:16 pm
ATHENA Front Fork Seals: Ducati moto Motowheels 1 Dec 25th, 2015 3:04 pm
Multistrada 1200S DES Fork Bleeding johnnysneds Suspension and Tire Tech 2 Dec 20th, 2015 8:43 am

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome