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Jan 26th, 2012, 11:55 am
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Tracking the PS, advice from pros needed..
I need some advice, I've done about 12-15 trackdays the past two years and am hooked. I've done a number on my PS1000 and am hooked. It's the best bike I have for track duty and while I doubt I'll continue to use for more than a year I need to address some modifications I need or think I need.
First, whats been done. Sharkskins body work to protect the bike as much as possible, Carrozerria wheel conversion in tandem with 4 pot calipers. Tremi pipes with modified ecu. Clutch slave by evo. New rear spring to increase height and help prevent lower bellypan drag (its worn through). Some aftermarket clip ons that suck. Conti Attack Racing dot tires (need replacing with new season of course).
I have t-rex front axle sliders (ok I guess) and frame sliders. The frame sliders haven't been mounted yet as they dont clear the side fairings, holes need to be drilled through.
What I'm thinking I want:
fastfrank parts:
quick change rear axle kit, axle kit for front maybe
lightened flywheel
MBP collets and shim kit (if I can get the damn things as out of stock!) I need this as valve adjustment must be done now, i'm at 5800 miles.
19x18 or 20? radial brake master (will this dramatically help?) Brakes seem good.
better set of inexpensive (?) clipons
What I plan on doing:
Getting my racing license in April after a few more trackdays (3 or so)
Entering in a superlight novice class and having fun!! maybe once, maybe more. If I get hooked more than what I am now, then a different bike should likely be considered. I'd hate to wreck and ball up this bike as they are
becoming collectable and prices seem to be near what I paid for it in 2006.
My lack of work is prohibitive in buying a full on track bike at this time and hell the Paul Smart is paid for so why the heck not...
My budget is small, I dont need to have faster bike mods, just better bike mods. Suspension is set up pretty well. I need to change shock and fork oil this winter I think as its old.
So racers, what do you think I really need to do here? I am trying to figure out what I've got to safety wire. To drill or not to drill is the question... I might buy new pinch, caliper and rotor bolts that are predrilled. Ti is a waste for me I think frankly. Pro-bolt has nice stuff but in UK. Any good sources in US?
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Jan 26th, 2012, 1:20 pm
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Cunning Linguist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maxwellsmart
The frame sliders haven't been mounted yet as they dont clear the side fairings, holes need to be drilled through.
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Given the apparent rarity of those PS full fairings, I think the idea of drilling holes in one might make a few people on here go faint!
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Jan 26th, 2012, 2:43 pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by greggers
Given the apparent rarity of those PS full fairings, I think the idea of drilling holes in one might make a few people on here go faint!
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There is an effort here in the Sport Classic part of Ducati.ms to replicate the side fairings:
Interest in Group Buy - NCR Hailwood rear seat cowl &/or SC side fairings for 1000s
So, rather than drilling your Ducati Performance models, you could:
a. Race the bike without the side fairings; or,
b. Join in on the effort to create 'glass side fairings and drill those fro the frame sliders.
That way, as greggers notes above, you will not modify what could be rather valuable pieces of bodywork just to get the frame sliders to work.
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Jan 26th, 2012, 5:10 pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by greggers
Given the apparent rarity of those PS full fairings, I think the idea of drilling holes in one might make a few people on here go faint!
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Got a little light headed reading the original post.
On the flip side I'm watching the value of mine go up and as that one goes down. I can understand taking the PS to the track to have some fun but not converting it to full on track duty.
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Jan 26th, 2012, 5:42 pm
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Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maxwellsmart
I need some advice, I've done about 12-15 trackdays the past two years and am hooked. I've done a number on my PS1000 and am hooked. It's the best bike I have for track duty and while I doubt I'll continue to use for more than a year I need to address some modifications I need or think I need.
First, whats been done. Sharkskins body work to protect the bike as much as possible, Carrozerria wheel conversion in tandem with 4 pot calipers. Tremi pipes with modified ecu. Clutch slave by evo. New rear spring to increase height and help prevent lower bellypan drag (its worn through). Some aftermarket clip ons that suck. Conti Attack Racing dot tires (need replacing with new season of course).
I have t-rex front axle sliders (ok I guess) and frame sliders. The frame sliders haven't been mounted yet as they dont clear the side fairings, holes need to be drilled through.
What I'm thinking I want:
fastfrank parts:
quick change rear axle kit, axle kit for front maybe
lightened flywheel
MBP collets and shim kit (if I can get the damn things as out of stock!) I need this as valve adjustment must be done now, i'm at 5800 miles.
19x18 or 20? radial brake master (will this dramatically help?) Brakes seem good.
better set of inexpensive (?) clipons
What I plan on doing:
Getting my racing license in April after a few more trackdays (3 or so)
Entering in a superlight novice class and having fun!! maybe once, maybe more. If I get hooked more than what I am now, then a different bike should likely be considered. I'd hate to wreck and ball up this bike as they are
becoming collectable and prices seem to be near what I paid for it in 2006.
My lack of work is prohibitive in buying a full on track bike at this time and hell the Paul Smart is paid for so why the heck not...
My budget is small, I dont need to have faster bike mods, just better bike mods. Suspension is set up pretty well. I need to change shock and fork oil this winter I think as its old.
So racers, what do you think I really need to do here? I am trying to figure out what I've got to safety wire. To drill or not to drill is the question... I might buy new pinch, caliper and rotor bolts that are predrilled. Ti is a waste for me I think frankly. Pro-bolt has nice stuff but in UK. Any good sources in US?
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Enjoy it greggers. I did mine a couple of years ago and absolutely love it.
Either radial master cylinder will improve lever feel and your ability to modulate. Mine is off a 1098.
I have the dp lightened fly wheel in conjunction with the dp cams. The lightened flywheel allows the motor to spin up more rapidly (obviously). It gives the impression of less torque but it was essentially equal on the dyno ( max Nm figure ) It translates to a lot of fun and necessitates riding higher up the rev range. I'm building another track bike now from a 1000s and will most likely not do the flywheel. Cams are quite an improvement.
I don't run an air box, and have had a good result with the ducshop kit. MWR racefilters are also reporting great results. I'll be fitting one to another SC soon
Good luck with it all,
SM
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Jan 26th, 2012, 6:25 pm
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Correction.
Meant to say maxwellsmart, not greggers.
Sorry about that chief!
SM
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Jan 26th, 2012, 6:41 pm
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Originally Posted by SM70
Correction.
Meant to say maxwellsmart, not greggers.
Sorry about that chief!
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Ha yes I am about as far away from this kind of track day riding as you can imagine
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Jan 26th, 2012, 7:15 pm
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Also forgot to mention, slipper clutch. Greatly increases corner entry speed for me. Helps with trail braking on the front as the bike remains more stable as you tip in.
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Jan 26th, 2012, 9:31 pm
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Well since you know about FastFrank, he is the guy to ask as he has won quite a few races on a PSLE. He is on the forum, send him a PM. He gave me setup info, though I am far from any kind of good track rider
ProBolt has a US presence, but I think they get stuff weekly from the UK as there is a delay in getting things shipped. The pre-drilled bolts make it much easier as I can bust a cobolt drill bit pretty easily. The have stainless as well, some lengths they only have Ti.
For caliper bolts a bought some aluminum spacers (aluminumspacers.com, I kid you not...) so the heads of the bolts stuck out beyond the recess fork holes, then ordered slightly longer bolts. Same for the pinch bolts.
Have fun.
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Jan 27th, 2012, 6:29 am
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I've been track riding for a while and I can't believe that no one mentioned doing your suspension. Front and back. It is the most sought after track mods out there. None of us mess with our motors, we all spend our money on suspension and suspension set ups. I know you are getting legged down the front straight on the ducati, but even with all the engine work, you will still get destroyed by the litre bikes. Even the 600's will embarrass the classic. The only engine work on my r6 is a ecu reflash and I'm turning 120 hp. Tires and suspension is where it is at for you. Don't waste your money on the motor. At least not until you have a really nice suspension set up. There is a kid that rides a well set up 125 cc race bike that rides in my group. The bike is brutal slow down the straight, but the kid is so fast in the turns. Once he passes me, all the motor in the world can't make up for corner speed.
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