749/999 wheels on a SC

[1slowr1]

So Ive searched, researched and just wanted to double check what Ill be needing to undertake this conversion....be it that the threads are long and a couple years old; So if theres any new/updated/opinions/info to help me thru this process its much appreciated.

Parts needed:

749/999 Front and rear Marchesini wheels
749/999 Front rotors
" " Rear Rotor
" " Rear Sprocket
" " Sprocket carrier
" " Rear Brake holder

Spacers (from fast frank, etc)
Sport 1000 Front Brake Caliper
Sport 1000 Rear Caliper
And I just saw that rear caliper bracket so that has to be on my list


Right guys?

...I plan on tracking my SC....so for the meantime these will be used w/ the stock front fork setup; any fork/triple combos you guys know of?



Thank, J.

[DGJ]

for the 999R wheels:

Rear Wheel is a direct bolt on with the stock break set up.

Front wheel needs a spacer, and you can use the stock rotor set up if you use 4P brembo calipers, no need for any adaptors. If you have the dough I recommend the brake upgrade.

Speedy moto triples with adjustable showas from an S4R would be a truly great improvement. If you don't have on already, I'd skip the triple for a TMSD. Ask JC if he still has some. Hands down the best mod on the bike.

have fun!

BTW, since you are local, I would recommend chatting with Andy at West Coast GP Cycles on Pico. He did my setup. These guys rock.

[GuyBFF]

I just finished my swap, here's what I needed:

Rear:
999 rear Marchesini wheels
999 rear rotor
999 rear sprocket
999 rear sprocket carrier
999 rear calliper and mount
Custom rear spacers (I bought the Fast Franks and am very pleased)

Front Options:
999 Marchesini wheels
and...
1) 999 rotors (15mm offset)
Stock callipers (Machine mounting tabs 1.5mm, or will rub a bit between carrier and disc)

2) 999 rotors (15mm offset)
999 4p/4p callipers (Must machined mounting tabs 5mm)

3) MTS 1200 rotors (10mm offset)
999 4p/4p callipers (perfect fit)

I started with the 999 rotors and stock callipers, but confirmed what poolagent found, that it's an interference fit. Seems to work fine, but it's not right. I recently bought some 999 4p/4p callipers and plan to switch to a 1200 rotor or some other 10mm offset rotor. I was going to machine the 4p/4p callipers, which may be a better option, as 999 rotors are lighter and more abundant, but I just want it to bolt up with no modifications.

Guy

[mikedsilva]

I have some mts1200 rotors in near perfect condition for sale....!

[bpracer]

Yep, I agree with all of the Guy's response above.

Oh, and you want a speedo-healer as well. Search for that, it is VERY simple install.

Fast Frank has made this swap easier and cheaper for those in the USA. The German spacers were pricey when I did it two years ago.

[KTOGUN]

How much does this conversion cost? Ive found some good deals on the wheels from 749/999, but what about everything else? Ideally i would want some carrozzerias but those are 2500 mounted. I can find the take offs for somewhere close to $750 and under, and can powdercoat them for $90 a wheel. Anybody have THE list of parts needed witj a grand total? Thanks.

[mikedsilva]

it is expensive.. here is approxiamtely what I spend when I did mine the first time...
front and rear wheels - $700
front mts1200 discs - $350
front 999 calipers - $400
rear caliper $90
rear mounting plate $50
spacer kit $200
speedo healer $115
sprocket & chain $250

about $2155 in total....

[GuyBFF]

Yes, I forgot the SpeedoHealer, which is necessary as the 999 wheels are 5 bolt instead of 6 bolt, so the speedo reports 5/6th speed.

The conversion is expensive, and there are other options, such as the Carrazzerias... but I find them a little sharp edged in appearance. The Marchesini just look like they belong on the bike. Your opinion may differ.

What you getting for you money is more than just wheels:
- Front callipers: 4p/4p from 2p/2p floating calliper (floating callipers are terrible
- Rear calliper: 2p/2p from 1p/2p floating calliper
- Rotors: OEM 1200 4.5mm, 999 4.5mm or aftermarkets 5mm floating from 4mm stock (I never knew they were so thin until recently)
- Drivetrain (you could just do a rear sprocket, but now's the time to do a 15/43 520 conversion about $100 more)
- The SpeedoHealer will correct the 8% factory speedo error.

With most of the other wheel options, you will either need some of this stuff as well, or will want it later.

My only regret ... was not spending more for the forged wheels. The cast wheels are very close to the stock wheels weight. Your really only shedding about 5lbs per wheel from stock with the cast by loosing the tubes. Yet, still, it's still a very BIG difference in how the bike rides and turns, I almost oversteered the first few corners as it turns at 60mph, like I was only going 40, and bombs all feel smaller. It's definitely worth what I paid. The forged would be shedding about 10lbs per wheel, I imagine it would by an unbelievable differance.

[1slowr1]

costly...but for about 2000 bucks it sounds like a very good upgrade.


What front fork setups are you guys running? Thinking of leaving it stock for now but since Im upgrading the wheels/brakes I have to change out the non-tuneable stock forks as well

[GuyBFF]

Now your opening a new box. You can search for S4r shows, like the rest of us (perfect bolt up, udjustable, ti-ni, but overpriced), s4 (adjustable, no to-ni, still overpriced). St2/4 (a little taller than stock may cause some fit issues with gt type bars or fenders)...

Or, change to superbike forks. Then you can use the superbike brakes, rotors, forks, clip-ons as one set. This takes modifying the stock triples, but may be cheaper than finding one of the rarer forks in the end, probably perform better, and further parts and upgrades are plentiful.

I'm still deciding.