Sport1000s questions

[cafesforlife]

Hey Guys

I have been looking at the sport1000s for a while and drooling for years. Finally getting ready to find one. Wanted to know how the riding position and comfort is for current owners. I am 5'10 165/170.

I AM NOT buying this for long distance cruising, I have another bike for that.

I will mostly be going for couple hours runs on the twisties on the hills and most of my in city riding.

Thanks a ton and safe riding everyone!

[Lee C.]

In my opinion a Sport Classic is the perfect short-hop play bike.

Try to find a 1000S to sit on to make sure you can stand the riding position (low clipon). If you can’t stand the stretch, consider a Sport 1000, the bikes without fairings have better clipon/handlebar options.

Cheers,
Lee

[jpkuhns]

I'm 5'9" and I can stand flat footed. I only start to feel the handlebar position strain for rides over 3 hours. Stop, have a coffee and cigarette and all will be fine. Squeeze the tank with your thighs if you want to sit more upright or just straddle the tank, put your ass up against the cowl, get under the windscreen and pretend you're Paul Smart.

[cafesforlife]

Thanks Lee. I like the sport 1000 as well but something about the 1000s is very stirring. I was wondering if the 2009 model has higher bars than the earlier years. Also, how different is the 1000s from the sport 1000 stock?

[FareWarning]

the only difference between the 1000 & 1000s is the fairing as opposed to completely naked 1000s comes with oem mounted steering damper, the clip ons which are higher on the 1000 (all years) and depending on whether the 1000 your looking at is an 07' or newer it has a wet clutch, same as the 1000s. if the 1000 was an 06' it would have a dry clutch. i think the only "s" verison that came with a dry clutch was the PS1000s. then its possible the 1000s is a biposto as the 1000 is a monoposto. besides that they are pretty much the same bike.. then you get into color schemes, stripes down tanks and mirror positioning. good luck!

Originally Posted by cafesforlife

Thanks Lee. I like the sport 1000 as well but something about the 1000s is very stirring. I was wondering if the 2009 model has higher bars than the earlier years. Also, how different is the 1000s from the sport 1000 stock?

[Air_Cooled_Nut]

You confused me FareW.

I have a '06 mono (dry clutch, yeay!) non-S version. Clip-ons are low. The '07+ mono (non-S version) came with the 2" riser clip-ons and wet clutch.

I'm 5'10", 175 pounds, 34" inseam...ah, see, it's the inseam that is the number you need, not your total height! No standing issues at all, can stand flat footed with gear and over-pants on.

Ergonomics! How's your health? Bad wrist(s)? Bad back/neck? If so then you will really dislike the ride on the non-GT. If you don't grip the tank with your knees/thighs to hold yourself up then your weight will all go to your wrists and that will be torture. I used StompGrip on the sides of my tank to give it protection and allow me to better grip the tank to hold my weight up. You'll be using your body core so being young helps, being in shape helps even more, LOL.

I've been a computer programmer (and do my own wrenching) for decades and my wrists let me know if I have too much weight on them for 30+ minutes rides. I actually added the 2" risers on my ride to help move my weight back, reducing a little of the stress on my wrists. Riding in proper form helps, of course.

[sportbob]

By your handle I'll assume your comfortable on cafe bikes so I expect you'll be comfortable with the 1000s. I'm 5' 11" and 190# dressed to ride with 32" inseam and longish arms. I can put both feet flat on level ground. I find it just fine except in city traffic. A lot of neck and shoulder pain there with no wind to help and lots of looking around to stay alive. But out on the road I find it a dream. You can shift the load around using the wind or your knees. It is certainly no cruiser though. 300 miles is a long day for me even after neck stretches and exercise and stepping off every 100 miles or so for a can of Harden TFU (as our friends down under like to say). I have talked with some folks who consider it a torture rack though so you would be well served to try and find one to sit on at least.

I never fell out of love with the styling of my old 900ss bevel but when I came across the 1000s, I suddenly found myself with a new Mistress!
You might check this out too Motorcycle Ergonomics

[FareWarning]

Originally Posted by Air_Cooled_Nut

You confused me FareW.

I have a '06 mono (dry clutch, yeay!) non-S version. Clip-ons are low. The '07+ mono (non-S version) came with the 2" riser clip-ons and wet clutch.

I'm 5'10", 175 pounds, 34" inseam...ah, see, it's the inseam that is the number you need, not your total height! No standing issues at all, can stand flat footed with gear and over-pants on.

Ergonomics! How's your health? Bad wrist(s)? Bad back/neck? If so then you will really dislike the ride on the non-GT. If you don't grip the tank with your knees/thighs to hold yourself up then your weight will all go to your wrists and that will be torture. I used StompGrip on the sides of my tank to give it protection and allow me to better grip the tank to hold my weight up. You'll be using your body core so being young helps, being in shape helps even more, LOL.

I've been a computer programmer (and do my own wrenching) for decades and my wrists let me know if I have too much weight on them for 30+ minutes rides. I actually added the 2" risers on my ride to help move my weight back, reducing a little of the stress on my wrists. Riding in proper form helps, of course.

06's non "s" came with low clip ons? i stand corrected.. my post could be a little confusing being is i dont actually have a 1000 or 1000s! but i have sure stared at enough of them..

[TheDucnutOfBevelville]

As a 1000S owner since 07 I can tell you that you have 3 main issues to deal with;
1. Seat Height.
2. Reach to the bars (and this issue is bar height dependent as well).
3. Type of riding you will be doing.

Seat Height
It is easy to determine if you can get sufficient foot contact with the ground to be safe when maneuvering at low speed and when stopped at a traffic light. Sit and test this to determine your comfort level.

Reach to the bars
The SportClassic tank is long and depending on the model you will have either low clip ons (1000S and Paul Smart) or risers (standard on some SportClassics but can be fitted to all non faired model years). Regardless of the arrangement on the standard SportClassic the 1000S has clip ons. These are fitted with a small (1/2" / 12 mm) spacer pin that LOWERS the clip on, on the fork tube. You can remove this to gain a small improvement in height but the effect is minimal because the reach and drop to the grips is so extreme that it has minimal effect. The 1000S and Paul Smart both have a fairing that prevents you from using the standard model SportClassic risers. You can cut the fairing out (done by someone years ago and it looks terrible) or do what I did; I slotted the fairing support bracket on the steering head and made a spacer that lifted the front of the fairing up 3/4". I then installed adjustable "Cycle Cat" clip ons that gave me an inch of rise without modifying the fairing. This is ALL you can do. Nothing else will work.

Riding type
I am 54 and 5'11" with a 33" inseam. It takes all my effort to ride this bike but I have done 2 trips to California; each around 2200 miles of riding in 9 days. It takes a shit load of effort to ride this bike that distance but it can be done. At 70 mph the wind blast helps but again it is negligible because of the extreme position. A good degree of comfort is NOT a realistic expectation with this bike unless your body falls within a narrow range of sizes that fit the riding position.
Another important factor to consider is that when riding around town or on freeways, you cannot really get a good look over your shoulder without taking one hand off the bars and making a big effort to turn your head. This is a slow and difficult thing to do when surrounded by cars and when making quick decisions on the road. In addition, when you turn, your head is also twisted relative to the horizon and it further impedes the rapid acquisition of information. This requires a different approach to city and freeway riding.... fast lane changes where you need an instantaneous knowledge of who is behind you just takes more time...Checking over your right shoulder is very difficult because you cannot really take your hand off the throttle. I pull the clutch lever in if I must look over my right shoulder, but I generally avoid having to do so...
In a nutshell the 1000S is very tough to ride long distances because of the weight on arms and wrists. It is also a difficult bike to ride around town. The best ride for this bike is short blasts on windy roads where traffic is minimal. Everything else becomes progressively more difficult.

[JCPakBikes]

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Originally Posted by cafesforlife

Hey Guys

I have been looking at the sport1000s for a while and drooling for years. Finally getting ready to find one. Wanted to know how the riding position and comfort is for current owners. I am 5'10 165/170.

I AM NOT buying this for long distance cruising, I have another bike for that.

I will mostly be going for couple hours runs on the twisties on the hills and most of my in city riding.

Thanks a ton and safe riding everyone!