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Old Jul 21st, 2006, 9:10 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Cycle Cat Bar install issues

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I bought the Cycle Cat DBR-21 Bars for my '06 999S and took them both to my local dealer, PJ's Triumph/Ducati in Albuquerque. They tried and tried, but could not get them to install right. They said the holes for the switch gear were drilled in the wrong places and a couple of the lines were too tight once the bars installed, especially the fast idle cable. I had the guys from cycle Cat call them and they measured everything out and said they were the right bars, but they just couldn't get them to work right, even with the help of the cycle cat folks over the phone.

Anyone else have any problems with the cycle cats?
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Old Jul 21st, 2006, 11:29 pm   #2 (permalink)
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I'm going through the same process. Cycle cat informed me that the person who designed this particular riser kit has left the company. I am working with another CC engineer and have been trading emails and pictures to work out the problems.

My only regret at this point is that I didn't do the install myself. This was the first time my dealer had installed the Cycle Cat risers. There was a faulty spring clip on one of the reservoir hoses that was leaking fluid. On the ride home the fluid sprayed onto the gas tank and slightly ruined the finish. This is on a brand new 999S 06 first ride. All the control cables and hoses were stressed. I may even have to remove the clutch and brake cables to re-route.

You probably have an issue with the throttle increasing RPM's when you turn the bars full lock right. You are also right in that the idle adjustment cable is the culprit. The twist throttle cables are slightly stressed, but most likely not causing this problem. Tomorrow I will be taking parts off to access the cable in the throttle body area. I'm hoping that there is an adjustment that can be made to lengthen the cable. There is no adjustment at the throttle lever. I will post back my progress .

Also check all the other control hoses and electrical wiring. Do not forget about the front brake hose. This is very important.The hose may look OK when sitting on the bike, but may be stressed when the forks extend when riding. Loss of brakes could be fatal. Be careful!

Is anyone familiar with the throttle lever adjustment cable. Is there any adjustment at the throttle bodies to lengthen the cable?
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Old Jul 22nd, 2006, 9:21 am   #3 (permalink)
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I actually had them take the bars off and am planning on installing the FBF bars instead. The safety issues are really not worth it for me.
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Old Jul 22nd, 2006, 11:02 am   #4 (permalink)
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my bars are stock on my 999 '05. when the fast idle is on and i turn the bars to the right, the fast idle gets higher. so it would seem the line is stressed even stock?
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Old Jul 22nd, 2006, 12:09 pm   #5 (permalink)
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The stock setup on the 999 series leaves practically zero margin for moving the controls. Everything is indexed to stay put as Terblanche designed it. I fitted Woodcraft clipons, and had a helluva time because the bar angle is a 10deg. drop vs 15deg. stock. The master cylinder reservoirs gave me the most problems. My fast-turn throttle was a whole 'nother issue in itself.

I haven't fitted any CC bars to the SBK's but I can imagine it being a royal PITA. Good Luck!
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Old Jul 22nd, 2006, 1:01 pm   #6 (permalink)
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There is minimal room up there for sure....here is an interesting thread on the ergonomics and what is/is not adjustable Fast by Feracci (FBF) Handlebars / Clipons

I am running a speedymoto gullwing upper triple, which is a well engineered yet simple solution to getting about 5/8" of an inch rise. Nothing else (other than the triple) had to be changed or monkeyed with, and all controls still work fine.
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Old Jul 22nd, 2006, 3:42 pm   #7 (permalink)
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I had Cycle Cat bars intstalled on my 06 749 Dark by Life Cycle in Kalamazoo Michigan before my first ride. No issues at all with them. I have made a few adjustments to them in the 400 miles so far and I love the things. Best money spent so far on my bike.
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Old Jul 24th, 2006, 10:41 am   #8 (permalink)
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I finished up adjusting the Cycle cat risers this weekend. The solution to the idle adjustment cable was finally just re-routing to the outside of the fork tube. To keep the cable inside the fork tube would require making a longer one. You would also have to open up the air box to install. I made the mistake of trying to get the cover off, what a PITA. I got the front screw out and then finally decided to reroute the cable. Should have done that in the first place. Must have spent an hour and a half on that one screw. If you ever try to get the cover off, replace that front phillips head screw with a similar hex head. The cable is pretty small and your dealer could probably make one if you really wanted to keep the routing the same as original. The cable has a crimped barrel end on the control side and just a tail inside the air box.

I moved the clutch master cylinder in on the bar and slightly re-routed the hose down the side of the trellis frame. I'm not satisfied with the clutch line so I'll probably get a longer one and switch out when the new slave cylinder comes in.

The only thing that I didn't check was if you could drill new holes in the bars and move the controls in slightly to give a little more relief.

My risers are set 5/8" below the triple clamp. The bars are set at approximately 60% up angling back. There is good clearance between the bar and tank. The clearance between the bar and lower part of the mirrors is a conflict only if you have gloves with heavy padding or protection.

All and all the risers do work and provide an alternative to the stock bars. The finished setup looks good. I would prefer shorter bar end sliders though. The directions for installation are very poor and incomplete. I believe the kit lacks the proper replacement cables and hoses to safely get the maximum amount of adjustment. Be prepared to spend a few hours on this modification. I think Cycle Cat makes some great products and they will probably improve this kit. They made the comment that the kit was already expensive. They didn't want to supply cables and hoses thus increasing the price. Well in my opinion, anybody spending $340.00 for risers would spend the additional amount to get a kit that is complete.

I'll check tonight to see if there is any room to move the controls in on the bars and post some pics. If anybody needs some help on installation, just PM me.

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Funny I just ran into the exact same issues with my install of the CycleCat riders on my 99' 900ss. Was not even looking for this thread either.

My throttle advance cable was getting snagged. A quick rerouting of the cable did the trick for me. My clutch line wound not reach to the new bar location. Snipping one of the zip ties gave it some more room.

As for the holes on the right side bar that locate both the kill switch and the throttle assembly... Im stumped. The holes are drilled in completely the wrong places. With the throttle assembly positioned correctly the start switch is in the 6 o'clock position. With the kill switch positioned correctly the required throttle housing position impedes the movement of the bars from lock to lock.

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Old Oct 2nd, 2006, 1:32 pm   #10 (permalink)
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I just got off the phone with a rep at CycleCat.
He asked me to send my stock bar so they could measure it and drill me a new bar. However inconvenient this situation my be at least cyclecat was quick in there response and quick to fix the issue.

Thankfully is it suppose to rain for the next 2 days ( so no riding anyways).
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