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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old Jan 9th, 2017, 4:17 pm Thread Starter
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I run "Engine Ice" in my little turbocharged KTM SMC 690 and it works a treat keeping the temp down.

I also want to use it in the 916 and 999, and don't see why it should be an issue, but thought I would check on the forum first.

Any reason I should not use "Engine Ice"?

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I used it in my 996 in the hot summer.... Couldn't really tell a big difference with temp reduction. Maybe it has other properties that make it desirable. I saw no negative affects.
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No problems. Use it all you like.

Please give me a picture of the turbo and the SMC. Really, how can it be ridden safely? I want it.

Was the turbo a "direct" fit? Or did internals have to be changed?

I use Waterwetter on my bike. There is a difference. It is slower to heat up, temps are stable longer, but I am still at 210 at the track. It manages the temperatures better, but doesn't run much cooler.

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No problems. Use it all you like.

Please give me a picture of the turbo and the SMC. Really, how can it be ridden safely? I want it.

Was the turbo a "direct" fit? Or did internals have to be changed?

I use Waterwetter on my bike. There is a difference. It is slower to heat up, temps are stable longer, but I am still at 210 at the track. It manages the temperatures better, but doesn't run much cooler.
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fyi; engine oil that is too low a temp will not protect the engine as well as a "up to temp" oil.

kinda like the three little bears story; not too hot, not too cold but just right...

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I am not on board with that. Unless the bike sits at 240 while running, I see no problem. When I pit the temps immediately climb to 240 if I leave the bike running for a couple of minutes. I've never had a problem with the OEM cooling system doing a job cooling.

I've spent a great amount of time in Florida, summers and the "winters," and Texas temps are the same, or worse. Houston's humidity is on par with anything in Florida. 100+ during the summers.


Back to OP, would you PM me or post details about the SMC?
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[QUOTE=Namor;6184889]

Please give me a picture of the turbo and the SMC. Really, how can it be ridden safely? I want it.

Was the turbo a "direct" fit? Or did internals have to be changed?

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Turbo is up under the seat. Everyone thinks it would a handful to ride but it's not. Interestingly enough it's turned a peaky wild child into a powerful tractor. It's a big turbo and doesn't spin up or down quick which limits it to some extent. It's probably much the same as a fully worked KTM 690 motor.

Awesome on a track. Starts tearing the rubber of the back tyre from about 2500rpm out of corners...
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I would strongly suggest you do not try it. The bloke that did the turbo install is a fkn genius when it comes to fitting turbos. He started at 15 years old and is now 39, and turbos is all he does. And then he did some engineering degree. He did the turbo on the KTM for a long term mate of his, but his mate did the norm, met girl, got married, sold the bike.

The next bloke rode it, but decided to get the motor rebuilt, hence needed setting up on the dyno again. He spent some months (and $2500au) trying to get it run again with a dyno bloke here in Brisbane that has a reputation for tuning turbo bikes. End result was the bike was basically not rideable.

I picked it for $5Kau, and drove 2000klm round trip to the bloke that originally built it to get it tuned. He was pissed off because his mate had sold it. He told me "It's a $10,000 plus turbo job". He got it to run pretty bloody good.

He was at the time putting a 1500hp turbo on a Toyota Landcruiser, tuning a Turbo Polaris that he had put a bigger turbo on for the Finx desert rally, had 2 of 620? Husaburgs on the go, and a ZX1400...

We had it up to 118hp at the rear wheel, but it was all critical edge, engine knock, pre-ignition, unpredictable throttle response. Not bad considered prior to the turbo it was 47hp at the rear wheel. We backed it all off and settled for 91hp longevity and controllability.

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