1098R Bayliss vs 1198SP - Ducati.ms

Will77 · Jan 19th, 2012, 10:44 am

Would appriciate your thoughts fellas..........I've been looking at either the Bayliss R or the 1198SP recently and would welcome some advice. I've found a Bayliss R brand new for 3k more than a new discounted SP which seems an attractive price. The R comes with the full Termis etc and has the racing pedigree which is very appealing but the SP is the last of the breed and probably the most polished of all the 1098 / 1198 models if what I've read is to be believed. I know the R is lumpy in town etc but I live in the sticks so not a problem for me and having had an early 1098S in 07 I know these bikes arent designed for the daily commute anyway. Would appreciate opinions from anyone with either model. I know which way i'm leaning on this but any advice and or opinons would be helpful before I pull the trigger. Cheers.

aswad · Jan 19th, 2012, 1:47 pm

the R is limited compared to the SP and has more power.

TOP_DUC · Jan 19th, 2012, 1:53 pm

I may be biased as I have a 1198SP, but it is the better buy. The Bayliss R only has more power in basic showroom trim. A few tweaks and the 1198 is the top duc and comes with all the add-ons...

**** · Jan 19th, 2012, 4:32 pm

I own an 1198SP. That beng said, for the right price, I would've definately chosen the R. That'll be a real collectors item someday. The SP? Not so much as the R. That's for damned sure.

The R is just bad ass.

BTW, make sure that your R, comes with all the stuff that they came with when they originally were released. My town had/has one for the same price scenario as the deal in your area. But....I didn't pull the trigger on the R because it didn't come with all the stuff that it should have come with. Basically just title, and bike.

Are you going to track it? If so, then the SP might be better for you. From what I understand, the R is a bit on the rough side, even at the track. I've not ridden the R, but the SP at the track is amazing. Very smooth in throttle response, and tip-in at speed is incredible. Leaned over in a corner is incredibly stable, and gives lots of feedback. Lastly, the DQS is neat to have. Frst time to ever use a QS at the track, and it was amazing!

All in all, the SP is way too much bike than I could ever ask for. It's too much in fact. Gets me from turn 4-5-6 in a hurry (at my local track). Not that my F1098S doesn't, but the SP rushes you there like there was no tomorrow.

I can't imagine what the R is like. That thing's gotta be wicked evil fast.

Picklesp · Jan 19th, 2012, 7:09 pm

I was in similar boat ! I was close to buying a 2008 1098 R , very nice and brand new but been in showroom for 3 years . I ended up getting the SP which is very close to R aluminum tank QS and so on ! The R has engine upgrades and full carbon is nice . Tough call but you can ride two up on the SP and it's a few years newer and think the updated termi cans are alot nicer then the full that comes on that R . I think the SP is a smarter choice if your not professional racer as the R will cost way way more if blows or crashed ! I really really like my SP and feel I made the right choice for me ! Good luck

Velocemoto · Jan 19th, 2012, 8:32 pm

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Originally Posted by ****

I own an 1198SP. That beng said, for the right price, I would've definately chosen the R. That'll be a real collectors item someday. The SP? Not so much as the R. That's for damned sure.

The R is just bad ass.

BTW, make sure that your R, comes with all the stuff that they came with when they originally were released. My town had/has one for the same price scenario as the deal in your area. But....I didn't pull the trigger on the R because it didn't come with all the stuff that it should have come with. Basically just title, and bike.

Are you going to track it? If so, then the SP might be better for you. From what I understand, the R is a bit on the rough side, even at the track. I've not ridden the R, but the SP at the track is amazing. Very smooth in throttle response, and tip-in at speed is incredible. Leaned over in a corner is incredibly stable, and gives lots of feedback. Lastly, the DQS is neat to have. Frst time to ever use a QS at the track, and it was amazing!

All in all, the SP is way too much bike than I could ever ask for. It's too much in fact. Gets me from turn 4-5-6 in a hurry (at my local track). Not that my F1098S doesn't, but the SP rushes you there like there was no tomorrow.

I can't imagine what the R is like. That thing's gotta be wicked evil fast.

Yep..R is wicked evil fast. Noticabely so.
Get the R

chris2 · Jan 20th, 2012, 1:12 am

Ive never felt that the R was lumpy or hard to ride. If anything, riding at normal street speeds feels more like the calm before the storm. Its an engine that likes to run. I actually enjoy it much more with the 1/4 turn throttle. Buy whichever you think is nicer and you can afford to repair/maintain. There might be subtle differences between the SP and R when you're riding but its not something that you're going to say 'i wish I had the R.'

98_916sps · Jan 20th, 2012, 4:33 am

The R is definitely Wicked Evil Fast...and then some. In my opinion, if the bike is going to live on the street, the factory mapping leaves the bike a bit choppy at a flat throttle. I upgraded mine to the Nemesis ECU and it improved the flat throttle smoothness. The bike is made to be on the track...mine spends 90% of it's life there...flat throttle isn't a problem.

Fror the track...get the R and learn to ride it...it is an incredible machine.

Greg
Florida

Will77 · Jan 20th, 2012, 6:02 am

Truth is I know i'd be more than happy with the SP, it's a beautiful thing and I know it'll perform because my old 1098S used to pull my arms off, sooo much grunt although in my experience the suspension out of the crate needs adjustment as mine had a little too much understeer as standard. However, the Bayliss R is brand new, 12 miles on the clock, comes with paddock stand, cover and full termis (which would be an extra on top with the SP although no QS which I'd have to fit) for a little more money but by the time i'd bought full termis for the SP I'd be looking at the same money give or take. Based on this I think this is surely the way to go. To answer questions about Track use, I do plan to take it to the track but not turn it into a track only weapon. Realistically, I'd say twice a year.

**ST3S** · Jan 20th, 2012, 7:42 am

I'll make the decision easy for you and take the R. Where is it?