need tools (wtb?)

[brian98]

Gents:

I sold my racebike SV650 and joined the Ducati crowd with an 01 748r. I have lots of engine building experience, but none on a Duc. I will be building a 657 with this bike, so a complete split cases rebuild is in my future.

I need help with all of the specialized Duc tools.

I know I will need some version of the head nut torque tool.

It looks like I might need something for checking the valve belt tension? I've seen everything from "set it at 10mm and go" to "only use the solid gold, Ducati tool that costs as much as my bike." I would like to compromise, and use a tool, but not get a 2nd mortgage?

I see other tools like: something to hold the front axle when removong the front wheel; something to turn the crank with; a bracket to hold the cam gears while instaling belt; a spanner to adjust drive chain tension...whew!

So tell me:
1) what is required?
2) what brands do you guys like, and where to get them?
3) anyone getting out of it and have a bunch of used tools lying around they want to get rid of?

Thanks for the help. I only have 3 months left to get this baby going for race#1!

brian

[DukeDesmo]

For torquing the head nuts I use;

MotoReva - Ducati Tools and Supplies

But Snap-on make something that should work (may need to grind it a little slimmer?);

FRDHM15, Torque Adaptor, Metric, 15 mm, 12-Point

Either option is a fraction of the cost of the official tool and you could even make one by welding a socket drive to a 15mm wrench.

Motoreva also make crank turning and other tools as do We offer high quality tools to service your ducati motorcycle including clutch tool valve tools wheel tools and billet accessories no doubt there are others but these are some that I have found to be good value

For the belt tension I usea a Facom gauge;

Timing Belt Tension gauge by: Facom - UKtools Limited - Hand Tools : Power Tools

[Andrew]

If you download the parts manual from Ducati - Bikes, Equipment, Accessories, Racing, Company, Dealer - Official Site Ducati, you will see all the factory special tools on the first couple of pages (they are expensive to buy).

Personally I can suggest a few tools that you may not already have or have not already identified:

If you're going to be doing major engine work you will also want to degree the cams, you will need a degree wheel for the engine turning tool and micrometers capable of measuring valve lift (I found it easiest to look in the head and then make a suitable bracket system).

When you adjust the chain tension you'll also be altering the rear ride height, so while a length of measuring tape can be used to take a reading from the subframe, it is more accurate to make a bracket that apes the Ducati tool which then allows you to set the ride height independently of tyre size and chain tensioner position.

You may also want a copy of VDSTS if you want to interrogate the ECU at any time.

Andrew...

[ttpete]

One of the forum sponsors makes and sells these tools: motomfg- Ducati tools and quality billet accessories,

[safetyfish]

If you plan on splitting the cases, following tools will make your life so much easier.

Clutch holding tool
Case puller
Crank turning tool
Degree wheel
Cylinder head nut socket
Primary belt pulley holder and special socket
Alternator holding tool

For degreeing the cams you can make up a jig to fix your gauges

All the best and post pictures, we love those types of threads

SF

[brian98]

Appreciate all the input. Got a ways to go, thanks for the help.

Brian

[ScrewDriver]

i mad a lot of my own tool when i did my 853r build. welded a 3/8's socket into a 15mm wrench to torque my head bolts. used a old clutch plate for a clutch holding tool. the one ducati tool i found that i really did need was the gear puller to get the primary gear off the crank shaft. i broke two sets of gear pullers trying to get it off.

[Dmitry]

I got tools from 3 different suppliers MotoMfg, Desmo Times and Heartland Products (evilBay) that covered the valve adjustment, clutch, axles etc, approximately $350

Made my own head nut tool (welded the socket to a wrench)

Still need an alternator holding tool

[brian98]

Christmas came today, when the postman delivered a bunch of MOTOREVA tools. SWEEEET!!!

I am so excited. the tools fit great so far. I can't wait to test the harmonic belt tension meter. As a new guy to Ducs, I didn't want to leave this part to chance. Nor did I want to leave the fun to someone else to do my maint. Getting this tool, and for a fraction of the cost of OEM reallyis cool.

Lots of machinework and assembly before I get to use the meter, but I'll try to get back with a report when things go together for final.

b

[brian98]

while I have this engine out on the bench and assembling/mocking/checking valve timing/etc., does anyone make an engine stand?

I had one for the SV with a bolt that went through the cases betweent he two cylinders, and a bolt that went through the cases on top in back where it bolts to frame.

Made it easy to move around on bench, but still stable for turning crank, or torquing head nuts, etc.

Please speak up if anyone makes an engine stand before I have to make my own and reinvent the wheel

b