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Better lights for 10-13 MTS1200

Well.. Im into lights and all and I´m going to take on a little Project come Thursday.
Ill be trying out diffrent conversions on the Multistrada 1200 lowbeam and see if I cant make the lights better without dazzling anyone. Now.. This test is only applicable to the Multistrada Gen2 that use H11 bulbs on the lowbeam. On the highbeam, there are some options.. Best on being to modify a H9 halogen buld slightly and use that. 600 lumens more for only 65w Power instead of 55w. Im not going to get into that part.

The Bulbs I´ll be testing are.
HALOGEN
H11 Phillips Longlife (stock)
H11 Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited (Plug and play, the brightest halogen upgrade availble)

Xenon/HID
H11 35W HID/Xenon Canbus
H11R 35W HID/Xenon Canbus (R is for reflector, suppose to cut down on glare when modifying the lowbeam)
Both kits use CN light high quality bulbs in 4300K and Canbus Slim ballasts of high quality

LED
IPF H8/H11/H16 LED Headlight conversion kit fan cooled - Newly developed and extremly well made by IPF, who are to Japan what Osram and Phillips are to Germany.
IPF H8/H11/H16 LED Foglight conversion kit no fan - Newly developed and extremly well made by IPF, who are to Japan what Osram and Phillips are to Germany.
Noname Ebay H8/H11 fan kit. - The cheap $100 or so you find on ebay/wish

Ill be checking fitment, lightpattern output and glare aswell as a subjective comment about fitting.

Tune in on Friday to see what is what!

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Did this Before using IPF H4 LED conversion bulbs for the Volvo 240 club and the results where a clear win for the IPF Fan cooled model!
Here is the stock bulb vs the IPF LED conversion kit lightpattern. (Note: EU full size H4 reflector, not sealed beam duals)

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Osram Nightbreaker H11 in 55w. Easy and fully legal upgrade. Gives more and is an easy fix.


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First out the Normal, Non-R, H11 xenon bulb @35W using "slim" ballast.
The lightpattern looks pretty good, but there is considerable glare compared to the Halogen buld towards the front since both HIDs lack a shield facing directly forward




Then the R-version. The R stands for Reflector and has a shield designed to prevent glare when doing HID conversions.



The Ballast, even being a high quality SLIM version still takes considerable space. I didn find this a feasible conversion
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LED.

First off some really GOOD LEDs. These are made by Japanese IPF that have to versions in H11, aswell as H4, HB3/hb4 and H10 aswell!
The non fan kind is very effective and takes minimal space. I ended up leaving these on the bike. The come in 5000K and 6500K color.







Then the FAN model from IPF rated at more lumens, but way to Bulky for the MTS small space


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Keep in mind that a simple upgrade is inserting a diode or something simple like that (I forget exactly how and where) and you can get the lows and highs on at same time. (like the 14's and possibly on the '13's?) This makes a huge difference at night. Keep up the good work, I am subscribing.

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Keep in mind that a simple upgrade is inserting a diode or something simple like that (I forget exactly how and where) and you can get the lows and highs on at same time. (like the 14's and possibly on the '13's?) This makes a huge difference at night. Keep up the good work, I am subscribing.

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Yeah there is a diode between the relays that kills the power to the dip beam relay when the bright comes up, reverse it and both operate at once.

The guy on another board still builds the modification harness, its super easy to install and thus completely reversable.

On the lighting tip I have HID dip, LED mains and Denali D2 dual intensity aux lights fender mounted it throws a LOT of light, and a good deal down the road with tolerable spread for mountain switchbacks.

Having all of the lights on is clutch, that couple second tease the bike gives you stock was enough to get my ass in gear.

The issue with ALL HID is space, I can't imagine where you would put all of the ballasts as there is next to no free space around the tank, I have the pair zip tied near where the lines for the oil cooler run, but with fuses and whatnot for the rest of the accessories, there just isn't a lot of space for nearly anything.

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Ran out of space.

Here are the NON brand name Ebay versions.
They really leave alot to be desired.

Ebay "80W" version.. Ill let the pics speak for themselves.



Higher quality $100 or so item. More lumens, but not where you need them. Compare this to the IPF unit in my other post.





Now compare it on the wall.. Ebay vs stock Halogen
LED ebay $100 item

Halogen bulb
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I'm running these for my main beams; 4000 Lumen H8, H9 and H11 LED Headlight Bulb

They're incredibly bright but so far I've had one person flash me I think and that was over a hill.

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I'm running these for my main beams; 4000 Lumen H8, H9 and H11 LED Headlight Bulb

They're incredibly bright but so far I've had one person flash me I think and that was over a hill.
Heard alot of good about them, but havent checked their pattern yet

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I'm running these for my main beams; 4000 Lumen H8, H9 and H11 LED Headlight Bulb

They're incredibly bright but so far I've had one person flash me I think and that was over a hill.
Those were on my list to try out as well, since they're pretty affordable.

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