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DP fog/riding lights on 2015 Multi

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Does anyone know if the crash bars need to be installed in order to mount the DP riding lights (P/N 96680431A)?

TIA
 
#6 ·
I think they were about a $399 add on at bike purchase, I got 10% off and got the dealer to install "free" as part of setup. Never had the bike out in the dark- dark so haven't seen what they really do but I'll take Dave's word for it, at twilight you notice a difference when they come on.
 

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#43 ·
I also purchased my auxiliary lights at the time of my new bike purchase, but I paid $287.00, receiving a discount. But I also had to pay $250 for the install, they're reasoning, it's time consuming and a big PIA. But the install included the crash bars and both axle sliders which I bought separately as well.

The lights do make a difference. I'm glad I purchased them, as my first 250 miles of my ride home leaving the dealership was in the pitch dark through a torrential wind/rain storm. The on/off switch is conveniently just right of the left grips, near the horn so you access it with your left thumb. The button illuminates with a bright green light when you have it on.
 
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I haven't seen the actual LED lights that came in, but my dealer confirmed they came with the brackets shown in multimike's pictures. Going to get them installed this weekend on my Multi.

One more question: if you turn of the bike while the lights are on, are they on when you start the bike again?

TIA
 
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hmm... I can't say I noticed. I don't think so but it IS possible... heated grips stay on and at the level you left them when getting off the bike.

Edit: No the lights do not stay on between power-ups.
 
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Does anyone know where the connector is for the fog lights? I cannot find the connector that plugs the light harness into the bike side (large 3-wire connector) for power for the life of me (is it on the left side or right side and location). I have my lights on but just need power now. :)

Any pictures would be appreciated...
 
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So my fog lights are not coming on. I'd still love it if someone with working fog lights could take a pic or describe to where the connector is you have yours plugged into. I am pretty sure mine is correct (I checked the color code on the wires for the mate I plugged it into), but DaveK is noting that his dealer had a hard time getting his to work too, as some lights on his bike came wired "incorrectly".
 
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The way the tech described it... there were 2 wires swapped in the connector. In the morning I'll look to see if I can get to the connector without taking anything apart... if so I'll post the pins and colors.
 
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Took my bike to the dealer, they still could not get the fog lights enabled (and they checked my wiring/install and agreed it was correct). They are going to contact Ducati on Monday to find out where the software switch is since it was not apparent in any of their service data. I made them give me a hard copy of the 96680431A (ISTR-607/00) installation manual since it is not available anywhere online. I scanned it. Here is the link to it:

Ducati 2015 Multistrada DVT Foglight Installation Manual.pdf
 
#19 ·
I had my lights installed by the dealer. He said when he got them connected and enabled in the computer, he got the generic warning light (! symbole inside triangle in upper left corner) to come on in the gauge display. He said he troubleshooted and something is wrong with the LED and they ordered a new kit.

As installed, my lights work and come on at ignition. If I push the fog light button then the generic warning light comes on again so basically I can't turn them off. Which is OK with me since I always ride with them on anyway.
 
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Alright, I found a few valuable things out today. All fog light kits shipped on or before April 24, 2015 have a defective wiring harness in the box (all kits after this are correct). The outer two wires in the connector to the bike harness (red and black) need to be swapped even though the color codes match up with what is on the mating harness on the bike. If plugged in there will be a C1200 - Fog Lights trouble code issued (short circuit to positive or open circuit).

This affects the Ducati Performance light kit Part #: 96680431A and the Enduro kit (including the fog lights) Part #: 97980061A.

Mine was defective, so I have to swap the wires in the connector. I'll be doing this soon.

The listed symptoms are:
"Both fog lights do not turn on when activated. Problem present when installing the kit. The generic error warning light turns on upon starting."

More details and pics soon. I hope this saves some people pain and time wasted.
 
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Hi MultiFrank

Still can't find my light connectors anywhere. Can you give me any further guidance? Were they zip-tied up with another bundle of wiring or anything? My enduro pack was shipped to me incomplete as I'm missing all mounting hardware and bolts/screws. Is there a wiring harness that should have come with the lights, or are the male connectors that go to each light already stashed somewhere in the fairing?

Also, did you actually have to remove the tank cover and side fairings to install, or were you able to sneak things in without doing so?

Thanks in advance,

Zolo
 
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I have my Enduro crash bars and fog lights off, at the moment, as my crash bars are out at the powder coaters.

You need to remove the red/white side panel and the black panel underneath it. The front light bracket mounts using the top radiator bolt.

I'm hoping to get my crash bars back tomorrow or the next day. I'll make a short video showing where everything installs.
 
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Fog Light Connector

I'd like to fit some non-Ducati Performance driving lights to my '15 DVT. My preference would be to make a jumper harness that plugs directly into the Ducati 3-wire plug on the bike.

Does anyone have insight into the manufacturer / type of connector used by Ducati for the '15 bike? The design is different than used on previous Ducs I've owned.

With the help of a magnifying glass, my aging eyes were able to see a 't 15' (or potentially 'j 15') molded on the side of the female connector - But Google doesn't bring anything up with that designation.

Crappy pictures of the female part in situ, and the male plug attached
 

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So a few days off allowed me some research time. The connector for the fog lights on the '15 is visually identical to a connector under the seat...Which is easier to get to, photograph, dissect, etc. It appears this is a Sumitomo connector, though the molded # (t 13) still brings nothing up in Google.

However, comparison of the terminals in the male plug to this Sumitomo part appear to give us an exact match:

Sumitomo MT HM HW Sealed Motorsport Motorcycle Connectors - Corsa Technic

The fog light connector comes with a male connector attached - It's just not populated with terminals.

So I've got a few of these terminals on order and I'll report back on my results.
 
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The terminals are a perfect fit. If you go this route, make sure you order some of the barrel-shaped silicone seals, I neglected to and had to drill and reuse the 'blanks' installed in the connector, which wasn't fun. But I now have a harness.

The output from the three wires is interesting. One is obviously switched 12V power, but one is powered whenever the ignition is on. The third is common/ground.

I tried connecting two 16W LED driving lights to the switched output, but the bike didn't like that: The fog light indicator comes on, but so does a 'general error' indicator in the top LH corner of the dash - The LED lights flash on and then immediately off, repeating about every 10 seconds. The voltage under 'no-load' conditions (multimeter only, no LED lights attached) doesn't do the flashing thing. The other powered wire illuminates the LED lights without any flashing - But it is always on when the ignition is on.

My best guess is that the ECU expects a certain load, resistance, or impedance, and throws the error symbol and 'flashy' behavior when it doesn't see it.

I plan to try wiring in a small relay next - Use the switched line as signal, the 'ignition on' line as power.
 
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Happy New Year,!I've been following this post,all the early Ducati fog lights have in correct wiring. The red wire has to be switched with the black wire.Any fog lights you use no matter what brand if you plug them into the factory wire harness, must be programmed threw the Ducati dcs system,or they will not work properly & will kick out and error code.If you wire them separately to the battery with their own switch then they will work !All Ducati fog lights come with brackets for mounting them without the crash bar's.
 
#41 ·
I wired up a set of PIAA driving lights on my Goldwing. I used a relay and wired the relay trigger to my OEM headlight relay, so when I put my high beams on, the driving lights would come. I put a switch in the trigger line so I could turn off the PIAA lights if necessary.

On my '15 Multistrada, I have wired in a fuze block, placed under the driver seat, with a trigger taken off the rear powerlet socket. Currently I have my Garmin GPS, Escort radar detector and a power outlet for my Gerbings heated jacket.

I've thought about putting on some small driving lights, as the fog lights, don't really add much illumination. If I do this, I'll wire them back through my Fuze block and put on a separate switch.

Fuze Block under the seat
 
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I've got two pieces to self adhesive velcro that hold it in place, but allow me to move it if necessary.
 
#45 ·
I have the 2016 Multi Enduro, with the Enduro package that I installed myself. I know I have to activate the lights at the dealer, but I can't seem to find a way to plug it so it will be ready for the dealer to flash.

Where's located the 3 wire plug to plug the fogs light to? I thought it would be close to the steering head, where I located the GPS wire end. But besides the GPS, there's just a two wire plug that won't fit the fog lights.

Did the led lights came with the wrong harness? Were there suppose to come with two wire plug?

Thanks!
 
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@snoopyam2nk , sorry that there was a delay in your post showing up, the software had set it aside but you should be all set now.
 
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@snoopyam2nk - I believe you're correct, a relay is needed. I didn't purchase the Ducati system, so I can't confirm whether or not it incorporates a relay - But I bet it does.

It looks like I never provided followup on my experience - So here it is. I *did* add a simple automotive 12V relay, and the system now works perfectly: The lights function as advertised via the Multi's driving lights button, and no errors are generated.

My assumption is that the button triggers something in the ECU via CAN, but that the circuit is current limited, and is looking for the sort of current required to latch a relay - Not the current required to power the light.
 
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