R10 Tires

[DucaMich]

Happy New Year everyone.

I was wondering if the Bridgestone Battlax R10s are suitable tires for the 1200S ?

Thx,

[DuckMan]

Based on the little I've read on the tire it is a dedicated DOT race tire intended for track use. I guess it depends on what you want or need but it probably wouldn't be a very good choice for street use.

[mazman89]

If you are going to use them at all I the street I don't recommend them. If you are fast enough to where you need them on the track, I have heard nothing but good things about them.

[DucaMich]

Sorry for not having been able to reply earlier.
I had ordered a set back when they were announced and pre-tested a few months ago.
Dealer called in to say they arrived this week.
They will be mostly seeing street use.
Will report on results after installing and using them, as soon as a kinder weather sets in.

[DucaMich]

...And I should perhaps specify that they will be mostly used at very high road speeds (120 to 230 Km/h) and on twisties (don't ask ;-)

[flynbulldog]

The problem with using race tires on the street is the active temperature range.

High performance street riding cannot get tires nearly as hot as constant track conditions do and therefore need a tire that is formulated to perform at a lower temps.

Below race-pace temperatures race tires are hard and very slick - they just don't work well.
That's why most trackday riders and racers use tire warmers, the temp needed to soften the compound is very hard to attain by riding on cold tires.
it would take 3- 4 laps to get a race tire up to temp on the track. I doubt it could even be done on the street.

I'd never put race tires on a bike meant for the street - good high performance street tires will work much better.

Even at the track, If I didn't have warmers I'd stick with a good street tire like BT03R

[DuckMan]

I love it when someone asks an opinion on something like this, and they've already bought them.

You are now in the position of being the expert. After you've worn them out please come back and tell everyone how the worked for you. There's no substitute for real world experience. Just please don't go for a 15 minute ride and come back telling everyone how wonderful they are.

[DucaMich]

Thanks Flynbulldog for the headsup.
I actually had different plans for these tires when I ordered them (track only) but plans have changed since.
Knowing me, I will not resist trying them out (carefully) on the twisties and see what happens.
Will wait for 95F ambient temp season before doing it ...
and let you guys know.

[DuckMan]

Originally Posted by DucaMich

Thanks Flynbulldog for the headsup.
I actually had different plans for these tires when I ordered them (track only) but plans have changed since.
Knowing me, I will not resist trying them out (carefully) on the twisties and see what happens.
Will wait for 95F ambient temp season before doing it ...
and let you guys know.

By all means, give them a shot. If you live where there are lots of twisties they should have plenty of grip once warm. just be sure and be carefully the first few times you push them in the corners. We don't need any more people hurt around here right now.

For me the compromise is steering or handling vs traction. It seems that sometimes the "race" oriented tires will compromise steering and handling for all out grip. The racer will do what he must to compensate as long as its faster On the street where speeds are lower (pease don't think I'm talking slow here) where all out grip isn't needed I'll take a fast, quick turning tire that's stable and slides predictably over one that has loads of grip but steers heavily and lets loose with a snap.

Look forward to hearing how this tire works. From what I've read this is really a state of the art tire.

[AKjitsu]

Originally Posted by flynbulldog

The problem with using race tires on the street is the active temperature range.

High performance street riding cannot get tires nearly as hot as constant track conditions do and therefore need a tire that is formulated to perform at a lower temps.

Below race-pace temperatures race tires are hard and very slick - they just don't work well.
That's why most trackday riders and racers use tire warmers, the temp needed to soften the compound is very hard to attain by riding on cold tires.
it would take 3- 4 laps to get a race tire up to temp on the track. I doubt it could even be done on the street.

I'd never put race tires on a bike meant for the street - good high performance street tires will work much better.

Even at the track, If I didn't have warmers I'd stick with a good street tire like BT03R

TRUE!! Be careful.