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Old Jun 19th, 2010, 7:12 am   #1 (permalink)
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Termi Install and Siemens TPS - Heads up

Hi guys

Just thought I would share with you. I recently installed the Titanium Termi Silencers and ECU on my M1100, I was told by the store that I could do it myself, indeed there are lots of threads about this saying the same the Siemens TPS is self learning.

But you MUST still have the ECU associated with the bikes throttles. Anyone with the shop manual can refer to Section "D" Chapter 5 Self learning TPS.

The Ducati DDS has a specific function for setting up a new ECU to the angle corresponding to the zero position of the TPS itself.

This will affect all Siemens controlled bikes. The top of the chapter also has the following warning.

This procedure must precede the first startup of the vehicle after replacement of the throttle body, potentiometer or ECU.

So not sure what the consequences of not doing this will be.
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Old Jun 19th, 2010, 10:03 pm   #2 (permalink)
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the concequence is that it runs like dog shit. i installed mine as well and rode it to the dealer popping flames out the back for the 10 min ride to have the ecu reset or whatever.

i love that they quoted me like 1.5 hours or someshit to do the install yet i had no freaking clue what i was doing and i was finshed in less than 45 min.
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Old Jun 19th, 2010, 11:10 pm   #3 (permalink)
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The Ducati DDS has a specific function for setting up a new ECU to the angle corresponding to the zero position of the TPS itself.
This is how you force a reset with the DDS. If you don't have a DDS you can do it yourself by starting the bike and making sure to not touch the throttle. If you start the bike and are turning the throttle the ECU won't learn the new TPS - it just reverts back to the last TPS setting it had. You can also force the TPS to reset by turning on/off 3 times (with no throttle input again) if the other method isn't working. That info was straight from the Ducati technicians training program I attended.
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Old Jun 20th, 2010, 2:25 pm   #4 (permalink)
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Desmoworks, I had heard about the on/off three times to reset although there is no mention of this in the shop manual, I thought it may be just some miss information.

So does this mean I can use on/off 3 times method to reset the ECU even if I have ridden it without having the ECU associated with the TPS?

What is really frustrating is the dealer I got the silencers from told me there was no need set up the ECU it was plug and play and even the instructions that come with the Termi's says nothing about a reset.
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Old Jun 20th, 2010, 2:41 pm   #5 (permalink)
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There is no mention of it because the TPS resets itself every time you start the bike as long as you don't twist the throttle while it is starting, so there is literally nothing to do. There is no reason to use the DDS or the 3 times on/off unless the system isn't self resetting.

It doesn't matter if the ECU has been setup with the DDS to begin with, it will still set itself.
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Old Jun 5th, 2011, 9:34 am   #6 (permalink)
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All,

I am rehashing an old post.

I have been contacted and offered a set of used Termis for my 696.
Asking $900. Given I have never heard the system before and am nervous it may be too loud, I'm not sure I want to spend that much money... any thoughts on the asking price?


Anyway, if I were to purchase them, I would do the installation myself, which looks plug and play.

My only concern is with resetting the TPS.
I have seen various posts indicating this requires a trip to the dealer, while other posts indicate one can reset the TPS themselves.

Is there any definitive answer on this from those that have self-installed their Termis?

Thanks!
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Old Jun 5th, 2011, 11:24 am   #7 (permalink)
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Yep it's exactly as Desmoworks says.
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I take this to mean the exhaust is 100% self-installable and that a trip to the dealer to reset the TPS is unnecessary.


Now if I can only figure out if the exhaust is too loud for me and if I could get the $900 down a bunch...
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There is no mention of it because the TPS resets itself every time you start the bike as long as you don't twist the throttle while it is starting, so there is literally nothing to do. There is no reason to use the DDS or the 3 times on/off unless the system isn't self resetting.

It doesn't matter if the ECU has been setup with the DDS to begin with, it will still set itself.
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Desmoworks, I had heard about the on/off three times to reset although there is no mention of this in the shop manual, I thought it may be just some miss information.

So does this mean I can use on/off 3 times method to reset the ECU even if I have ridden it without having the ECU associated with the TPS?

What is really frustrating is the dealer I got the silencers from told me there was no need set up the ECU it was plug and play and even the instructions that come with the Termi's says nothing about a reset.
love desmoworks
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