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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old Jan 6th, 2017, 8:55 pm Thread Starter
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Intro and a few S4RS questions

Hello everybody!

I have been riding Ducati Superbikes for the past 20 years and finally made it to my first Monster, a pre-loved '07 S4RS with 9000mls (full Arrow CF system with DynoJet module), 3-4 year old tank.

The 6000mls service was done by the dealer about 3 years ago.

Beside the typical fluid changes, valve check and belts, are there anything Monster specific items/topics I should check/do?

In particular, my concern are about the replaced gas tank, which doesn't show any signs of defects, how do I preserve it and the DynoJet module.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
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Welcome, draganc. I also have a white 07 , quite new to me as well. Mine had never had ethanol in the tank according to PO. I ran out due to the amazingly poor fuel mileage and had to use ethanol laced fuel to get home. Though I meant to run it out quickly it didn't happen for about two weeks . My tank had swollen about 3/8" . After several tanks of non ethanol it shrank back, but it took the rest of the summer. If you have to use ethanol, use it up asap.
Other than that I can't add much to your list, except to set up the suspension for you and don't trust the PO. Mine was all screwed up.
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Swollen 3/8", that's just crazy!

Did you use any of the fuel stabilizer? Does it even help?

This must be Ducati's worse F-up ever.

I test rode the bike for about 10min at 40deg and I loved it.

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Stabilizer will not help, just like he said do not let E-10 sit in tank. I've been running Non e-fuel in my sport classic ever since I got the tank replaced, still just like new. 2 tanks of e-10 and original tank was falling off the pucks up front.


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Just curious jcasella, since we're neighbors: where did you find gas without EtOH?

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There is a website called " Pure Gas " which will tell you most, but not all, of the places in your area to purchase ethanol free gas. Expect to pay about 30% more for 10% more gas. My math may be a little rusty, but....

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I've heard of guys lining the inside with caswell? I had an 07 s4rs white/red. Wish I never sold it.

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This has been an ongoing issue for the Sport classic, MS and Monster.

Heat cycling of these tanks will expand and contract as much as 1/4 inch under sunlight and or heat from the Bike.
This will cause some deformation.
It is really hard to pinpoint why plastic tends to deform over Steel, aluminum, or fiber

If the tank is removed and washed out and left out to dry or have air circulated through it. We have found the Sport classic tank will contract or shrink back.
Can take anywhere from 1 week to 2 months.
It is almost like a lifeform.


Caswell is only as good as the prep work to install it. Prep is 95% of it.
It is also a tool used to "extend" the life of the tank and not a cure. Expansion may still occur due to heat but can help with reinforcement to keep the shape. It will help with keeping ethanol from leaching it to the tank surface to cause bubbling or pimpling of the paint.
We use a special rotation machine and special aggregate to rough up the inner surface for the epoxy to have something to attache to.

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If you can get a new tank I would coat it right away
If you can find a good used that that has shrunk back or decreased in swelling it is a good idea to coat it. If you plan to repaint cost it first then have it painted.
If it has been painted or has stock paint we can protect it.

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If the tank is not showing any signs of expanding it only means two things. One the previous owner avoided ethanol at all times. Or two it is already coated. If you are having trouble finding ethanol free stations or plan on doing trips where there are none I'd get it coated quick.
My S2R800 expanded and I had it replaced. Second one expanded and the dealership drug their feet to officially file a claim and said "oops, too late" This was all before caswell was well known as a bandaid for the problem.

I purchased my S4RT with a coated tank and I keep a close eye on it. Should the caswell start to fail at anytime I will drain it as fast as I can to get it re-coated. If I ever come into a lot of cash to blow I'll buy a metal tank and be done with the whole problem.

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Just curious jcasella, since we're neighbors: where did you find gas without EtOH?
I keep a 35 gal drum of e-free VP fuel, expensive AF but I only ride this duc on Sundays so I'm able to pull it off. The website shows the whole NE area as unable to get ehtanol free anywhere that you could drive to. Have to know a private pilot to get it at most airports, easier to order the barrel of this direct, runs me through a summer.


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