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Old Apr 30th, 2010, 12:05 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Wet vs Dry / Standard vs Slipper Clutch Option??

For a BIMOTA using the Ducati DS 1100 engine ( 2 valve oil/air cooled engine like those used in the BIMOTA DB5R, DB6/DB6R, and/or Tesi3D)......

Im looking for feedback regarding setting up a Ducati DS 1100 engine motorcycle with a wet vs dry clutch, and also looking for feedback regarding keeping a standard clutch vs changing to a slipper clutch?

So there are 2 issues Im looking at; wet/dry and std/slipper clutch.

Im leaning toward thinking that a dry slipper clutch would be the best set up, for a number of reasons including, but not limited to; more power transfer due to decreased oil drag, easier to access, faster spool up, possible less weight as well. The negatives I can think of are basically that of increased noise, more vulnerable, possible faster wear. Also there is the "Ducati" "race" look and sound that comes with the open/dry clutch. The slipper function would of course improve safety and speed especially when aggressively down shifting.

Is there anything that I am missing ????

Thank you for any constructive feedback and/or suggestions....

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The primary advantage, at least as far as I am concerned for my riding habits, for going to a slipper clutch handling/response. I enjoy the 'twisties' and going into a corner in a higher gear, braking hard going in, dropping down two or so gears, and powering out is where the slipper clutch comes into its own. No judder, rear wheel hoping sideways, etc.

My DB6R and DB5R came with a slipper clutch. Bob added one to my DB7 before delivery. Wouldn't do without them.

Interestingly enough, they were a transformation on two other bikes I own and cherish, the BMW HP2Sport and HP2Megamoto. The Sport has the finest chassis/handling of any Superbike out today, bar none (a view several English magazines who have tested it share.) The bike's handling suffered from the lack of a slipper clutch, with the wheel wanting to clunk out a bit on the downshifts. Ditto with the Megamoto. San Jose's slipper clutch was the answer for both -- and, of course, an Akro system for the Sport and a Remus for the Megamoto.

Go for the slipper clutch, by all means. Dave
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The primary advantage, at least as far as I am concerned for my riding habits, for going to a slipper clutch handling/response. I enjoy the 'twisties' and going into a corner in a higher gear, braking hard going in, dropping down two or so gears, and powering out is where the slipper clutch comes into its own. No judder, rear wheel hoping sideways, etc.

My DB6R and DB5R came with a slipper clutch. Bob added one to my DB7 before delivery. Wouldn't do without them.

Interestingly enough, they were a transformation on two other bikes I own and cherish, the BMW HP2Sport and HP2Megamoto. The Sport has the finest chassis/handling of any Superbike out today, bar none (a view several English magazines who have tested it share.) The bike's handling suffered from the lack of a slipper clutch, with the wheel wanting to clunk out a bit on the downshifts. Ditto with the Megamoto. San Jose's slipper clutch was the answer for both -- and, of course, an Akro system for the Sport and a Remus for the Megamoto.

Go for the slipper clutch, by all means. Dave

Have you ever considered having a dry clutch put in your BIMOTA Tesi 3D bike??? A Dry Slipper clutch I mean???


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Just haven't got around to it yet. Planning on it. Dave
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Just haven't got around to it yet. Planning on it. Dave
The Ducati Performance 848 Dry Slipper Clutch Conversion Kit is said to fit on theses Ducati DS 1100 engines with the wet clutches.

If you search this website there is info and pictures that document this conversion step by step with pictures.

Personally I would much rather have a dry clutch if for no other reason then the "look" it gives the bike. Plus it is another way of defining an Italian engine from the rest of the bikes out there. With the billet CNC machined clutch parts available the dry clutches really dress up the bike alot too. Its like mechanical jewelry for the engine.

The Dry clutch conversion is not that much money ( retail is $1550 USD +/-)....plus the parts are top quality components as well. I think that Ducati put this kit available for all of the owners who bought the 848 and wished it had a real Ducati clutch ( dry) rather than the wet clutch that comes on the bike new.

Thanks again for your comments

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