DB4ie NEW !! yr 2000 is fuel injected

[bimoaware]

A year 2000 Db4 ie this one is NEW !!!, may have to sell it soon
I can never really get a photo to show how it looks and feels in person
The eye to detail of this bike-you have to be there , I suppose at 21K new,
you better get some kind of top of the line components, which it has.
Fuel injection all you carb version DB4 owners, sorry this model is flawless
perfection. Bimota went overboard on this model , they should call it the Razor or more like a Japanese Katana sword(beautiful polished steel carves out corners like a Razor edge) I saw a photo of the lean angle on a DB4 in bimota enthusiast website ,looked like he was so far leaned over that the bike looks like it was sliding on its side. (I posted photo below)

[dnovo]

Extremely sharp looking. I'd keep it. Dave

[tsmtdi]

price?

& how does it compare to one with a 41mm keihin fcr?

[dnovo]

I own the "Corse" version of the DB4 with the CR carbs, ti can, etc. I have ridden a DB4ie. The fuel injected version is not faster but smoother. The CRs don't like to start as easily and will not run well until the engine is completely warmed up. The "Corse" version is a bit more of a 'race' setup, the fuel injected more 'civilized.' Dave

[tsmtdi]

dnovo

thanks for the input

i've heard that the fcr starting procedure involves cranking the throttle 3 times & firing the start button

I'm seeking advice as I was trying to decide on getting one with your current setup versus a IE one

appreciate your help

[dnovo]

Starting any bike with those carbs is going to be a production, but not that much of an issue once you get the proper method in hand. My DB4 always starts, dies at first, but eventually just fine. Then it needs to warm up to run smooth, again no big deal. FI will be easier, assuming the system is set up and maintained properly, something that applies to any set of carbs as well. Dave

[bimoaware]

Talk to Bob Steinbugler at Bimota Spirit ( Bimota Dealership Raleigh N.C. )
Ask him about the guys trying to trade up to the DB4 ie fuel injected
versions and unload those problematic flawed versions
Bob ( Mr. Bimota ) will explain
I couldnt imagine even directing someone towards the older DB4 's if he could
find a DB4ie like mine ???????????????????????
Maybe a Tesi 3D would sell well with Carbs ?????????

[dnovo]

[QUOTE=bimoaware]Talk to Bob Steinbugler at Bimota Spirit ( Bimota Dealership Raleigh N.C. )
Ask him about the guys trying to trade up to the DB4 ie fuel injected
versions and unload those problematic flawed versions QUOTE]

May I respectfully disagree. What "problematic flawed versions" of the DB4 are you referring to? The DB4 was simply an update of the DB2 with the oval tube frame from the ugly and unpopular Mantra, aka DB3. Mechanically, it was the standard Ducati air cooled 2v 904 engine, a long running, well-sorted powerplant. Bimota changed only the exhaust system. There was nothing 'promblematic' nor 'flawed' about the DB4. The Corse version sacrificed starting and cold running ability for the greater performance available with hotter cams, reworked heads, and (the real issue) the CR carbs. These intended-for-the-track carbs will always present a starting and cold running issue on ANY bike you put them on. Couple that with hotter cams and other modifications and you have the 'flaws' I assume you refer to. That is not a 'flaw' but simply the tradeoff one must accept for putting a race-oriented set up on any street bike. I accept that and, once my DB4 Corse is warmed up, no issues.

Moreover, this 'flaw' is not unique to the DB4 Corse. Indeed, my DB2 was delivered this way, with the big bore kit, CR carbs, highly reworked heads, and damn near everything that can be put on the bike to make it 'full race.' It is a pain to get started, needs to warm up completely before it will pull cleanly, does not like low rpms, but once it does, this little puppy is an absolute blast to ride.

So, there is nothing 'flawed' about any 'normal' carbed DB4 and if there is, then I'd like to know what flaw we are discussing. Since the DB$ uses the same engine as the 900SS Ducatis of the same vintage I have never heard of any such 'flaw' inherent in that drivetrain nor has there ever been any other report of 'issues' in the DB4.

Again, please do not confuse the 'normal' (for a CR carb and otherwise kitted out) characteristics of the DB4 Corse for a 'flaw.' What I assume is the 'flaw' you refer to is simply the norm for any bike with those odifications.

And yes, I do know Bob Steinbugler. I have bought several bikes from him, including my DB5, Tesi 2D and Tesi 3D. We have discussed the pros and cons of carbs vs injection on several occasions. There are tradeoffs on both sides of this issue.

For example, while I agree that well sorted injection is nice, it cannot be adjusted 'at home.' My Tesi 3D had a minor tuning glitch that developed. The injection on the 3D is not stock Ducati, and Bob had to bring a cable (to connect the bike's computer to the Ducati dealer's computer) and some software back from his recent trip to Italy to resolve the issue. It runs perfectly now. Ditto on my 600 mile service on my DB5, we needed a connecting cable. I would prefer to see Bimota use standard Ducati injection systems for their bikes, but they love to fiddle.

So don't sneer at carbed bikes as 'flawed' or 'problematic.' Yes, a good FI system is great and no doubt an improvement over carbs. But the former is not 'flawed' and the latter needs special equipment to adjust and keep in tune, something beyond most of us who like to maintain their own bike.

I understand the 'mine is better' mindset, but let's not be ethnocentric here. Dave