2011 Ducati sts......$19,995 - Ducati.ms

Motard-Menace · Dec 5th, 2009, 5:37 pm

Made ya look huh.............Anyway I was bored so thought as of late with the new Multi release there has been a lot of pondering, speculation and wishing Ducati would make a new ST ride by many of us. So hypothetically if Ducati offered a premium ST for around a 20K price tag would you buy one? What would it be worth to you and what would you want your ST to be? Would you be willing to pay $23-$24K even if it was a SPORT tourer vs. a sport TOURER. I think the only way Ducati could succesfully bring a new ST to market would be to go high end with a premium price tag most likely. I don't see a $13K ST being doable for them.

Anyway wishfull thinking I know but if I had control of what was going to be on the new ST it would have this stuff and maybe the name sts11 or something.....what would you want..........

Lets say it has the new 1198 11 degree motor with the diffent ride modes/maps to start as the powerplant with chain final drive. Easy to source since its already available.

Comes with bags that quick detach and do not leave unsightly mounting brackets when removed. Looks as good with or without the bags on. Maybe better without. Optional top trunk in several variations maybe. Heated grips (optional), ABS and traction control that works with the ABS unit so as to not add weight. Full Ohlins suspension that is not electronically adjustable again to keep the weight down. Of course ABS can be turned off and TC is adjustable. Again not a big investment here on RD they already have all this.

Non adjustable windshield but options for three or four different sizes to fit your liking. Three seat choices, comfort/touring or sport or lowered.

Adjustable handlebars with 1-5 inches of up or down adjustment and say 10 degrees of lateral adjustment. Adjustable rearsets that can lower and raise.

Four color options, Red with black frame, Black with black frame, White with black frame and yellow with black frame. Keeps it simple the frame is the same color for them all.

Center stand (optional) and some tasteful CF pieces incorporated but not too much. Maybe around the vents, the front fender and rear hugger or something like that.

Digital dash display with speed, gear position, fuel, fuel economy and a couple trip meters. Tach should be old school needle with the new Ducati Corse logo embossed into the background???

And lets keep the dry weight at 410 lbs or less with a 5 gallon fuel tank. This should be easily doable since the new multi is 423 dry. Keep it under 475 fully fueled.

I know this is pipe dreaming but really how hard could it be for Ducati? They already have almost all this available to them, now its just a matter of twisting and pulling a 1198 frame into an ST. If I was a motorcycle designer I think it would be a challenge and fun to design.

Come on Ducati..........please...please....please....pleas e...please....

SE84 · Dec 5th, 2009, 6:04 pm

A center stand should never be an optional part on this class of bike. If you don't like it, take it off, but the bike should come with one IMHO.

Also, don't forget HID factory lights, or some aux lighting.

mcd · Dec 5th, 2009, 8:48 pm

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Originally Posted by Motard-Menace

Made ya look huh.............So hypothetically if Ducati offered a premium ST for around a 20K price tag would you buy one?

No eff-in way.

hankstump · Dec 6th, 2009, 11:08 am

I hate to break it to you, but the new Multi is the new ST. (at least from Ducatis view)

Now that they have made this move, I can see very little chance of a ST type bike showing up any time soon in the Ducati barn. There's just not enough market for a standard ST, and the ADV touring crowd is growing every year, and getting lots of press. I'm afraid you will have to embrace the new Multi, or switch to a Honda or Triumph if you definitely want that ST form factor.

But dreams are good, I guess.

Cheers,

**John** · Dec 6th, 2009, 11:17 am

The future ST would have to compete with the new Honda 1200VFR. Have you seen the bike? What about that dual clutch transmission ala Formula 1. I have to admit, the bike has got the WOW factor, at least with me.

pgeller · Dec 6th, 2009, 12:25 pm

I'm not so sure, Phil. The new Multi 1200 could make an excellent foundation for a more touring-oriented bike. Change some bodywork, brackets, bars, bits and bobs and you're there. The hard part is already done, great engine, chassis, suspension, technology. Think of it as an opportunity for a decent facelift, too. There's really nothing un-sport-touring about the new bike. I can see Ducati pulling off a coup and getting off cheap!

pg
DD

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Originally Posted by hankstump

I hate to break it to you, but the new Multi is the new ST. (at least from Ducatis view)

Motard-Menace · Dec 6th, 2009, 1:07 pm

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Originally Posted by pgeller

I'm not so sure, Phil. The new Multi 1200 could make an excellent foundation for a more touring-oriented bike. Change some bodywork, brackets, bars, bits and bobs and you're there. The hard part is already done, great engine, chassis, suspension, technology. Think of it as an opportunity for a decent facelift, too. There's really nothing un-sport-touring about the new bike. I can see Ducati pulling off a coup and getting off cheap!

pg
DD

Not sure Ducati will do it but its nice to dream and that was kinda my point. They have all the needed parts. There would not be a lot of RD to put an ST togther.

hankstump · Dec 6th, 2009, 3:47 pm

I agree. Add some more substantial lowers, a bit more protection up top its getting close. I'm envisioning the new Ducati accessory catalog now. Just like fashion. Its not done until its accessorized properly. $15k base, and another $10k in catalog items. It could turn into an arms race thing, kinda like a Harley. Its not done till its overdone.

Lets see, what would Ducati call a new ST based on the Multistrada? MultiSportStradaTouring, or SportMultiTouringStrada, or will it be the Multistrada ST?

apehair · Dec 6th, 2009, 5:57 pm

Key to the ST's appeal is its attractive design. I couldn't care less about the new Multi because it's got the same appeal as a Porsche SUV. Sure, Porsche makes an attractive SUV, but it's still an SUV. In that sense, the Multi is better looking than the BMW GS, the Triumph Tiger, and all those SUV motorcycles, but they all leave me cold. (Where's the little icon for somebody sticking his finger down his throat?)

If I were to buy a new ST, I'd want it to look fantastic. Like a Superbike with Bags. And when I remove the bags, it should perform almost as well as a Superbike. Sure, the engine would be tuned for more low end and midrange and it would have a little more weight, the pegs would be lower, bars higher, etc., but it would be as close as reasonable.

That's what I like the Ducati ST instead of the BMW K1300 GT, the Honda ST (gag icon, please), the MotoGuzzi Norge, The Triumph ST and any of the other Sport Touring compromises. I like Ducati's emphasis on SPORT.

Then again, once I can afford it, I'm going to buy myself an 848. I don't want to trade the ST4 for the 848, I want to keep both. The only question is whether I'd sell my Harley Softail Custom so I could have the 848 sooner. There are 2-lanes through the midwest that were made by God himself to be ridden at 60 mph on a Harley cruiser. I just don't know yet whether I would enjoy them as much on a Duc.

ape

tonered · Dec 7th, 2009, 9:21 am

+1

Except, I think the Triumph fills the bill pretty well.

I am interested in what happen with throttle by wire. I need that gag icon also.

Have a good one.