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Mar 11th, 2006, 5:46 pm
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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What Would You Ride If It Wasn't a ST
I'm not interested in another bike, but if I get the word that the bike is a total loss, I'm not to sure I want to put up with the up-keep. I do my own work on my bikes, since it's my profession in the automotive field, but it can get old real fast. I ride allot of miles in a year, and I sometimes lust for a lower maintenance ride. I do love the ST4S.
Just looking for other's thoughts.
Ride Safe
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2004 ST4S Grey
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Mar 11th, 2006, 6:10 pm
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Asheville, NC,
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If I can ony have one bike its hard to beat the ST.
Maybe a Multi or Sprint ST could fill the 1 bike need.
If there could be more than 1 bike I would ditch the ST and get something bigger better distance bike, and something smaller (quicker handleing), and somthing for the dirt and a Moto Guzzi (just cause I love'em). Maybe a sport bike from the mid 80's (GPZ 550) when I was a teen. Did I miss any?
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Mar 11th, 2006, 6:16 pm
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Location: Chicago Suburbs, Northwest Indiana, USA
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BMW K 1200 S. Haven't ridden it, but find it interesting.
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Bluepipes
2001 ST2
1996 M900
"Never ride faster than your guardian angel can fly"
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Mar 11th, 2006, 6:56 pm
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Originally Posted by bluepipes
BMW K 1200 S. Haven't ridden it, but find it interesting.
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Me to.
It was on my short list when I decided to go with the Duc.
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'pilot
2004 ST4S Grey
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Mar 11th, 2006, 7:49 pm
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If you find the K1200S interesting, but want more long distance attributes, keep your eyes out for the soon to be released K1200GT. A complete remake with the K1200S engine in a narrow lightwight full faired super-sport tourer. Designed to compete with the FJR 1300, but lighter and faster.
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Duc4Doc
'06 Ducati ST3s Red
'06 Yamaha FJR 1300 Cobalt Blue
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Mar 11th, 2006, 10:46 pm
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Still needs a life.
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Edmonds (near Seattle), WA, USA
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new BMW sport touring bike
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Originally Posted by bluepipes
BMW K 1200 S. Haven't ridden it, but find it interesting.
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Here is BMW's latest contribution to the sport touring field.
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...?article=25245
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Bill Anderson & Darkwing Duc (06-ST3s, black) Edmonds, WA. USA
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Mar 11th, 2006, 10:53 pm
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Still needs a life.
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Edmonds (near Seattle), WA, USA
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When Peking Duc was totaled, I looked at the Honda VFR 800. It can be an affordable sport tourer when the available (but not standard equipped) hard bags are added. Paul Geller likes his as does another guy I ride with. I like the location of the tail pipes, which give it a superbike look.
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Bill Anderson & Darkwing Duc (06-ST3s, black) Edmonds, WA. USA
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Mar 11th, 2006, 10:55 pm
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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K1200S: the bike bestowed with an AWESOME motor but a crap chassis and brakes. And this from a rider who does not care for 4 cylinder bikes. It doesn't have the sound or engine braking of the big bore Duc twin but much better power down low than most 4's, no FI snatchiness and a very quick revving response with decent tranny...actually a superb tranny by typical BMW standards, just not as fast and short as a Duc or Honda tranny. Unfortunately this powerplant is mounted or encumbered as it were, with typical modern BMW engineering stupidity. Telelever, ESA, ABS, linked brakes, paralever shaft drive....The end result is a chassis that is slow to respond, offers zero feedback and brakes that are wooden in feel and offer zero ability to modulate. I prefer to enjoy the riding experience myself and make my own decisions on how to brake and manuever based on my own skills, not have some German engineer a way the bike he thinks it should respond and perform.
Alternatives to your ST4s? ST3 is certainly lower maintainence and easier maintainence. Not good enough? You don't mention your intended usage other than commuting. If that is your sole usage, I'd look at a MTS 620 dark or MTS 1000s. Both offer a comfortable position for low speed city riding while still offering some room and protection for higher speeds. The 620D is just a phenominally light and flickable ride with the preferred single front disc brake for lighter, more responsive handling and feel yet still plenty of brake for that bike and its purpose. The MTS 1000s ups the ante in power but most importantly you get a phenominal fork that really performs offering spectacular feedback and feel that you'll appreciate navigating city roads as well as blasting through the twisties during weekend play. The air-cooled motors combined with far less bodywork makes servicing an easy and cost efficient task.
Other possibilities:
* SS1000S/SS800s: same easy service 2V air-cooled motors in a more sportbike riding position.
* Monster S2R1000/800 or M620/695: all terrific lightweight naked Ducs with easy service 2V air-cooled motors
* Triumph Sprint ST: great motor, available bags, good suspension though lagging in feelcompared to your Duc, not to mention it is noticably heavier bike.
* Triumph Bonneville: They come is several flavors, even saw the new GREAT looking Scrambler today. All make wonderful, cheap, efficient commuter bikes
* KTM 950SM: Maybe not the most practical and certainly not the most easily maintained but that beast does look ALOT of fun. Hey, you gotta have fun, no?
* Triumph Speed Triple: Only barely lagging behind the KTM in grin factor, but much better maintainence and similar practicality/versatility.
* Honda 919, Yammy FZ1/FZ6, Zuki SV1000/600: ah...well...BORING forget it, pick any of the previous...you only live once and life's too damn short for a boring bike.
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Mar 11th, 2006, 11:35 pm
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Cary, NC, USA
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There is such a difference...
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Originally Posted by extrapilot
I'm not interested in another bike, but if I get the word that the bike is a total loss, I'm not to sure I want to put up with the up-keep. I do my own work on my bikes, since it's my profession in the automotive field, but it can get old real fast. I ride allot of miles in a year, and I sometimes lust for a lower maintenance ride. I do love the ST4S.
Just looking for other's thoughts.Ride Safe
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I just bought the bike pictured. '02 model. Only have 100 miles so far...but very nice.
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Marc Krouse
Cary, NC USA
2005 Ducati ST3 [Sold]
2002 BMW K1200RS
1996 BMW R1100RSL
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Mar 12th, 2006, 8:43 am
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Boston's North Shore, MA, USA
Posts: 611
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Originally Posted by nrsanders
If you find the K1200S interesting, but want more long distance attributes, keep your eyes out for the soon to be released K1200GT. A complete remake with the K1200S engine in a narrow lightwight full faired super-sport tourer. Designed to compete with the FJR 1300, but lighter and faster.
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+1 on that K1200GT!
I've read so many posts on different sites trashing BMW's as being boring and having no sole but I like BMW's and really like the styling on this one.
http://www.roadracingworld.com/image...1142086348.JPG
There are too many other types of bikes I like for too many different reasons which is main reason I chose the Ducati ST. The Duc ST incorporates so much of the things I admired in other motorcycles into one well rounded package, plus it has SOLE! If I had to get rid of my ST for another Duc however, the Multistada would certainly put a big grin on my face
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Mr. Tommy 2 Valves and his '01 ST2s...Bella...the "Duc a la bleu" Lusting for the "green mallard"...'04 Matrix 998
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