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Jan 18th, 2012, 10:52 pm
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Simi Valley, CA, USA
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Rear brake fade
I have noticed this on fast trips through the twisties on warm days on my ST4. I'm considering switching over to stiffer brake lines, but before I do this, I'd like some advice from anyone else who's solved this - thanks!
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Jan 19th, 2012, 4:46 am
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Location: Tamworth, NSW, AUSTRALIA
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What's a rear brake?
Craig 
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Jan 19th, 2012, 6:17 am
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Location: Palmyra, VA, USA
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Brake fade is generally caused by heat, so a stiffer brake line won't solve that problem. If you are dragging the rear brake, don't. If it is getting too hot because you are really using it that much, the only way to solve a brake fade issue is to switch to another pad, probably a race pad (ie harder, or higher temp rated). Since I don't race, I can't give you any advice on specific pads.
Good luck.
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Jan 19th, 2012, 7:46 am
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Location: Ottawa, , Canada
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One of the first things I learned when I bought my 748, was not to bother with the rear brakes.
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Jan 19th, 2012, 8:04 am
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Location: Sleepy Leafy South Birmingham, , England
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I had this happen on my ST4 a few years ago, and as Swift says, it was due to me dragging it. As soon as I realised this, I knew how to rectify the situation.
As per all this 'what's a rear brake' and 'don't bother with it', I love my rear brake, so as soon as the MotoGP and World Superbike boys start ditching the rear brakes from their bikes, I'll start considering ditching the rears from mine.
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Jan 19th, 2012, 8:11 am
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Location: Lerwick, Shetland isles, UK
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Used along with the front brake I've had no issues with mine, smooth riding and the v-twin engine braking mean you don't have heavy braking on open roads.
The only time I use it on it's own is when I want to balance at a stop/give way sign without putting feet down or on grave loose surfaces where a front wash out could occur.
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Jan 19th, 2012, 8:21 am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markst
i had this happen on my st4 a few years ago, and as swift says, it was due to me dragging it. As soon as i realised this, i knew how to rectify the situation.
As per all this 'what's a rear brake' and 'don't bother with it', i love my rear brake, so as soon as the motogp and world superbike boys start ditching the rear brakes from their bikes, i'll start considering ditching the rears from mine.
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+1 !
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Jan 19th, 2012, 9:51 am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Malibyte
I have noticed this on fast trips through the twisties on warm days on my ST4. I'm considering switching over to stiffer brake lines, but before I do this, I'd like some advice from anyone else who's solved this - thanks!
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Switching to SS lines if you don't have them is always a good idea.  (Are you a transplanted Canadian?)
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Last edited by stryder; Jan 19th, 2012 at 10:12 am.
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Jan 19th, 2012, 10:07 am
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Mr Leakered
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Lynnwood, WA, USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkST
I had this happen on my ST4 a few years ago, and as Swift says, it was due to me dragging it. As soon as I realised this, I knew how to rectify the situation.
As per all this 'what's a rear brake' and 'don't bother with it', I love my rear brake, so as soon as the MotoGP and World Superbike boys start ditching the rear brakes from their bikes, I'll start considering ditching the rears from mine.
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Same here. Great words.
Have a good one.
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2001 ST4
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Jan 19th, 2012, 10:48 am
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Location: castle rock, co, usa
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I guess I'm with the other camp. If you are using the rear brake enough to cause fade that's too much. These bikes have crazy engine braking, I don't really use either brake much compared to past bikes I've owned. As mentioned, the rear brake helps stabilize the bike when slowing, the front brake does most of the work. It also comes in handy for slow speed manuevers and keeping the bike from rolling at a stop if you want to get a stretch, that's about it.
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