» Site Navigation |
|
»
»
»
» Motorcycle Forums
|
» Buyers Guide |
|
|
» Our Partners |
|
|
|
 |
|
 |
Oct 26th, 2011, 2:59 am
|
#1 (permalink)
|
|
Life is too short to worry !
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Peterhead, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Posts: 1,620
|
Drilling Carbon Fibre
I am just about to embark on the re-sleeving of my OEM silencers with Carbon Fibre.
I have the procedure clearly set out but is there anything special I need to be aware of ?
Do I need any special drill-bits , is it better to use a wood bit (not the flat type but the type with a centralising tip and outer points) or a straight forward metal cutting bit and should I drill the bolt holes (for the mounting bracket) in one go each or in stages using increasingly larger bit sizes ?
Does anyone know the size of the rivets holding the end plate on ?
(It would be nice to be sure I have the right size to hand)
Appreciate any pointers.
__________________
05 ST4s - With Racetech Goldvalves , Rebuilt rear Ohlins , Tapered headrace bearings , Galfer Front Discs & Pads , Dynabeads , Open airbox with K&N filter , Iridium NGK's with Magnecor Leads , 15/42T Cogs , Helibars with Oxford heated grips , HID dip beam , Twin-Tone Fiamm Horns plus a bunch of 'detailing' modifications.
|
|
|
|
Sponsored Links
|
Advertisement
|
|
Oct 26th, 2011, 4:24 am
|
#2 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: uk, wales,mid glam, uk,wales
Posts: 107
|
I just drilled holes in my carbon fairing with no problems. I drilled a tiny centre hole first with a standard metal drill bit making sure there was a piece of wood behind. Then drilled the size hole I needed, again with a piece of wood behind.
Hope this helps
Phill
__________________
Street fighter S,ST 4 Radical project,ST4S,Monster 696,Triumph 675 daytona SE.
|
|
|
Oct 26th, 2011, 5:16 am
|
#3 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Jericho Center, VT, USA
Posts: 322
|
A spur bit is easy to use because of the central point, which positions well - and it'll cut a cleaner hole because of the spurs. But everybody except fancy-dan woodworkers (like me <g>...) uses standard metal bits. It's good to use an awl to make a positioning mark/dent and start with a smaller bit - easier to be accurate that way.
__________________
Peter Tourin in Jericho Center, VT
'98 ST2, '75 Norton Mk III
|
|
|
Oct 26th, 2011, 6:16 am
|
#4 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: uk, wales,mid glam, uk,wales
Posts: 107
|
What ever you do don't use a flat wood bit with a point. It will reck it.
Stock ST Exhaust Mod
Drill bit sizes on here.
__________________
Street fighter S,ST 4 Radical project,ST4S,Monster 696,Triumph 675 daytona SE.
|
|
|
Oct 26th, 2011, 7:25 am
|
#5 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 401
|
I just re-sleeved my Sil-Motor cans with carbon fibre sleeves after a recent off resulting in a severe road rash on the RH can 
I covered the whole outside of the sleeve with wide masking tape so that I wouldn't accidentally scratch when working on it. For drilling the 10mm holes for where the bracket fits I would have stuck masking tape on first anyway. It gives a good surface for marking with a pencil and it helps stop the drill bit slipping. I drilled an 3mm pilot hole as a guide before opening it out to 10mm with a sharp normal bit. I used 4mm x 10.5mm large flange head blind pop rivets that I got off ebay.
For each of the end caps I marked out the position of the first rivet hole and started at that point working my way round so that the rivet holes lined up with the original holes in the caps. If your OEM cans don't have straps you will need to mark out all the holes or else drill new ones right through the sleeve and the cap in different positions from the originals.
This is the sleeve I took off;
and this is the end result;
__________________
2003 ST4s ABS
1994 907ie
Scotland
|
|
|
Oct 26th, 2011, 9:37 am
|
#6 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Fremont, CA, U.S.A.
Posts: 766
|
Here's an older thread I did about Repacking Staintunes and replacing the c/f sleeves
__________________
2001 ST2
998sFE
|
|
|
Oct 26th, 2011, 10:03 am
|
#7 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 401
|
Which reminds me, I used Accoustafil to re-pack them. It was very easy.
__________________
2003 ST4s ABS
1994 907ie
Scotland
|
|
|
Oct 26th, 2011, 12:20 pm
|
#8 (permalink)
|
|
Life is too short to worry !
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Peterhead, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Posts: 1,620
|
OK , thanks guys for the guidance , I will incorporate all of it into my work.
As I am just re-sleeving the standard exhaust I can simply re-rivet the end cap into the original holes so I dont have to worry about marking the correct position of the holes.
I'll post a piccie of the finished article and detail any mishaps (if any arise) when the deed is done.
__________________
05 ST4s - With Racetech Goldvalves , Rebuilt rear Ohlins , Tapered headrace bearings , Galfer Front Discs & Pads , Dynabeads , Open airbox with K&N filter , Iridium NGK's with Magnecor Leads , 15/42T Cogs , Helibars with Oxford heated grips , HID dip beam , Twin-Tone Fiamm Horns plus a bunch of 'detailing' modifications.
|
|
|
Oct 26th, 2011, 6:25 pm
|
#9 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Sleepy Leafy South Birmingham, , England
Posts: 1,783
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek
I just re-sleeved my Sil-Motor cans with carbon fibre sleeves
|
Nice work Derek, very nice.
|
|
|
Oct 26th, 2011, 6:29 pm
|
#10 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Sleepy Leafy South Birmingham, , England
Posts: 1,783
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gearbox
OK , thanks guys for the guidance , I will incorporate all of it into my work.
|
Have you a supplier for the carbon sleeves yet Allan ?
If not, this is a very handy resource - PJ Engineering - Home Page - Manufacturers & suppliers of High Temp. Carbon Fibre, Stainless & Titanium Tubes and Performance Motorcycle Exhaust parts in Lincolnshire, UK
|
|
|
| Sponsored Links |
Advertisement
|
|
 |
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|