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Dec 29th, 2010, 2:35 pm
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Originally Posted by stryder
^ What he said, especially the part about the above being butt ugly. A Ducati ST should always be a tuned/sorted for touring "superbike-ish" bike with side cases, not that monstrosity. I want a lean forward position, no "mud flaps", and function-follows-form styling.  The more I read about "this", the more I'm committed to keeping my lowly ST3. If they bring out a new ST, they'll probably be made in Thialand anyway.  I look forward to seeing/reading about the new Motus ST. Ducati has nothing new that interests me at this point. 
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Yes thats a Multi with bits on it, certainly not my idea of a sport tourer. As stryder said, the ST had it's DNA from a superbike and that's what attracted me to the ST and specifically the first series ST4s.
Ducati people seem to like classic lines on there bikes.
There was a post where the question was asked 'If you could have a "second" Ducati, what would it be?' and markg remarked.
'Has anyone noticed that almost every bike mentioned in this thread is no longer in production, and in many cases by a decade or more?'
Maybe thats why the sport classic has such a following! On this forum the classic's section is very popular, only second to superbikes and on which the discussion is about machines that are over 10 years old.
What do you guys think?
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Dec 29th, 2010, 4:43 pm
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#12 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Able Duc
Yes thats a Multi with bits on it, certainly not my idea of a sport tourer. As stryder said, the ST had it's DNA from a superbike and that's what attracted me to the ST and specifically the first series ST4s.
Ducati people seem to like classic lines on there bikes.
There was a post where the question was asked 'If you could have a "second" Ducati, what would it be?' and markg remarked.
'Has anyone noticed that almost every bike mentioned in this thread is no longer in production, and in many cases by a decade or more?'
Maybe thats why the sport classic has such a following! On this forum the classic's section is very popular, only second to superbikes and on which the discussion is about machines that are over 10 years old.
What do you guys think? 
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I think my second Duc will be an 848 and my third duc will be a 749 or 999. that way I can have specimen of each of the last three generations of 4 valve Ducati's. Or maybe not, but it would be cool to open the garage door and see them all next to each other.
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Dec 29th, 2010, 11:06 pm
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As stMats echoed, we look to sport bikes, not to some friggin' "dual-sport" bike for inspiration. I'm also looking closely at a 848/1098 as a second Duc (but not necessarily XX9 as a third), since I find that about half my rides are less than 100miles and I could definitely use a lightweight sport machine to keep up with my buddies on the twisties during those rides. I just rode several superbikes, and for some reason, the 848/1098/1198 series works for me. I agree with everyone that they resemble too closely Japanese bikes in appearance, but the ergos are much better for me than any other superbike Ducs. Love the others, but go figure?
For me, I only have so many years and don't want to live them on behalf of some idiotic "do it all" program that actually does nothing. Was raised in the West with horses, and I know that the quarter horse is the short track king, the thoroughbred for the middle distance, and Arabs for endurance rides. Got the endurance bike, and am now looking for either the quarter horse or the thoroughbred.
Some years back, I was taking a riding lesson and my instructor put me on a crisp quarter horse that was just like a coiled spring - fast, light, agile, willing and at the end of two hours, that horse was just getting started and I was a wreck. The ST4S is the closest I've come so far, and am looking at a 848/1098 to close the circle.
Ron
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Jan 10th, 2011, 10:17 am
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I hope they do it
Love my 2006 ST3,, 40 more hp would be gr8 though
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Jan 10th, 2011, 7:51 pm
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I think stryder had it right above. None of that MS stuff, more functional form, more sport oriented. the nice thing about an ST4 is all those ponies that are available and its ability to do a lot of twisties and still carry you home on the highway in comfort. I have ridden the MS and it has a bunch of neat features, but my ST is more refined as a SPORT tourer, even for two up (one brit I know did about an hour or so on the continent, two up, with full luggage at speeds around 255 kph! That is real sport touring). A further iteration on that theme would be nice to have on the market.
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Jan 10th, 2011, 8:00 pm
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What would be the compelling reason to buy one, other than they ran out of new old stock?
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Jan 10th, 2011, 8:00 pm
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I find it a bit funny that a small maker like Triumph finds that an ST type bike is viable, but Ducati doesn't. I think there was a ST shootout in Cycle recently and it was the MS against all the other REAL sport tourers. No time to read the article, but you can see the tires are a big problem with the MS. I also found it quite noisy compared to my ST4. Haven't ridden one on an expressway, but I imagine it does not quiet down.
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1970 Kawasaki A7
1971 Kawasaki A1 (basket case)
1978 Suzuki GS400e (sold)
1980 Suzuki GSX550e (sold)
1982 Honda CB400 (sold)
1983 Yamaha XT125 and DT 125 (traded in)
1988 Yamaha DT200 (traded for leathers)
1988 Gilera Saturno 500 x 2
1993 Ducati 750SS (sold)
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Jan 10th, 2011, 10:41 pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
...I think there was a ST shootout in Cycle recently and it was the MS against all the other REAL sport tourers. No time to read the article, but you can see the tires are a big problem with the MS....
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Probably the tires, and maybe partially the belief placed in the bike by their riders who mostly all swear it handles better than race replicas in the corners. The unfortunate MCN rider below found out differently. Thankfully he walked away.
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Jan 11th, 2011, 12:16 am
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Originally Posted by stryder
Probably the tires, and maybe partially the belief placed in the bike by their riders who mostly all swear it handles better than race replicas in the corners. The unfortunate MCN rider below found out differently. Thankfully he walked away. 
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Here's how well the Multistrada 1200 handles on the track amongst other 'race' bikes...
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Jan 11th, 2011, 1:48 am
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#20 (permalink)
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riders sure do make a difference!
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1965 Suzuki Hilly Billy (stolen)
1968 Kawasaki A1SS
1970 Kawasaki A7
1971 Kawasaki A1 (basket case)
1978 Suzuki GS400e (sold)
1980 Suzuki GSX550e (sold)
1982 Honda CB400 (sold)
1983 Yamaha XT125 and DT 125 (traded in)
1988 Yamaha DT200 (traded for leathers)
1988 Gilera Saturno 500 x 2
1993 Ducati 750SS (sold)
2004 ST4s ABS (yeller)
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