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Old Nov 29th, 2009, 5:15 am   #1 (permalink)
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If you had this, What would you do to it?

I know a lot of people for some reason don't think highly of the Monza 160 motorcycles. I have this ahh I think 1965 Monza non running,missing peaces model that I just picked up. I have 3 options on my book unless you can think of more. The first one is to do a complete restoration. Second is to turn it into a cafe racer. Third is to just clean it up and just ride it..in other words don't spend money on it. If you have any suggestions please share them with us. If you have any ideas to share please send pics. Thanks
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Old Nov 29th, 2009, 5:35 am   #2 (permalink)
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fully restore it and place it in your living room
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Old Nov 29th, 2009, 6:42 am   #3 (permalink)
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Restore and ride regularly.
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Old Nov 29th, 2009, 8:19 am   #4 (permalink)
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Restore huh? Can you guys tell me why? The Monza is not that desirable that I know...or maybe I dont know!! Am I missing something here?
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Old Nov 29th, 2009, 10:11 am   #5 (permalink)
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While 160s are more popular than you might think, there is no way I would bother restoring a 160, especially a square one. That said, my definition of "restore" may differ from someone else's.

As for what YOU should do with it, that's your call. What do you want out of it? A 'giro bike? An around town scooter? A display for your den? A rat bike?

As for what _I_ would do with a 160, I had planned on building a replica of a 125 Sport out of mine but had a hard time finding a Sport tank so I went a different direction. After committing to a different tank of course I found a Sport tank so now I'm sort of kind of keeping my eye open for yet another project bike...

I have seen a basically stock 160 with clip ons and it looked surprisingly good. So if you're just looking for a fun bike to ride (assuming you're the type who can have fun on a slow bike), clean it up, put lower bars on it if that's your thing, and ride it. Otherwise, the sky's the limit. But keep in mind to do it right will cost money. Just because it was inexpensive then (and now) doesn't mean it's cheap to rebuild to. It will cost you just as much to rebuild the 160 as a 250 and the 250 is, in most people's eyes, a more useable motorcycle.

Go here to see mine:
http://www.teamyikes.com/160/ducati160homepag.html

Mine started out looking a lot like yours, here's how it looks today. I still have work to do on getting the angle right on the tank and seat but you get the idea:


And here's another site where you can go to see the whole story on it:
http://www.motoscrubs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=35

That's a new forum exclusively for single cylinder Ducatis that's trying to get off the ground. We'll see how it goes, so far it's kinda slow around there. I think I have a build thread on my 160 here too but I've lost track of where it is! That shows you how much progress I've made on the bike lately... hmm...

BTW - yours is a '66 or '67, I'm pretty sure in '65 they still used a round headlight with the square bodywork?
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Old Nov 29th, 2009, 10:56 am   #6 (permalink)
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Desmodog I have read your thread a couple of times already and must say that you are a very talented man. I agree completely with your post. I would restore it but by the time im done with it the money I spent on it would be more than what the bike is worth. Im leaning towards cleaning it up and doing some minor chrome work. Possibly a custom paint job. I love the color scheme on yours and I cant wait till you hang the engine, are you polishing the engine? The data tag is stamped: 196 so I guess they forgot to stamp the year at the factory!!
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Old Nov 29th, 2009, 1:11 pm   #7 (permalink)
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Im leaning towards cleaning it up and doing some minor chrome work. Possibly a custom paint job. I love the color scheme on yours and I cant wait till you hang the engine, are you polishing the engine? The data tag is stamped: 196 so I guess they forgot to stamp the year at the factory!!
Thanks fo the comments. I'm not polishing the engine any more than it was from the factory. I'm hung up waiting for a repair of a screw up I made... it's almost done I think?

Go ahead and paint yours up as you se fit. That's half the fun of these if you ask me. It's not a flippin Mach 1 for cripesakes...

The last digit on the data tag was left blank so the dealer could type it in when the bike was sold. Apparently they titled bikes by the year they were sold back then rather than the year they were produced. That's led to much confusion these days!

Most of all just have fun with the bike. I think it's better to have a non-stock bike out and running than to have an ongoing "restoration" sitting in a garage for 12 years because the parts are hard to get. I have tons of respect for people who do proper restorations. I may attempt one myself someday but for now I haven't got anything worth (to me) restoring.

My tune is starting to change on my 750GT though, that one could be the bike I finally take the time to do factory correct. (I'd still leave the Dyna ignition, high compression pistons and 32mm carbs on it though!)
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Old Nov 29th, 2009, 1:25 pm   #8 (permalink)
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Well, well, well, I learned something new today. So my Bronco could easily be a 58 or 59 year model but because It was sold in 60 it has the 1960 stamp!!! Interesting. I wonder what happened with this one. Im sure with the engine and frame # the correct year can be traced. The owner told me it was a 1965 but how does he really know without the stamp? uhmm. I see both sides of the dilemma, on one side you make a commitment to yourself to finish a project and you store it for years until you find all the right pieces and on the other you do enough to it just to enjoy it. For a Monza 196 I think I want to enjoy it. Desmodog, I went to the website you mentioned and read your 250(350)monza project, That silver tank and seat look EXPENSIVE!!!!! but awesome!!!
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Old Nov 29th, 2009, 3:28 pm   #9 (permalink)
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If I owned the bike, or another bike in similar condition to yours, I would restore it mechanically to ensure it is safe and reliable to ride. I would tidy it up cosmetically but not do anything that diminished its originality or patina. I, and many other enthusiasts I know, much prefer a well maintained original machine to a tarted up, over polished restoration. I'm not criticising those who prefer additional chrome, polished alloy that used to be rough cast and two pack paint, I just prefer an original machine that looks like it has been used.
Good luck with whatever course you choose to take.
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Old Nov 29th, 2009, 5:18 pm   #10 (permalink)
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clean it up, give it a once over and ride it.
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