Ducati Mega Monster Cruiser

[Gilly]

I only read part of the thread, but one thing does come to mind when talking tradition and innovation. So far as I can tell, when Ducati went to the Desmo engine (didn't Mercedes invent this?), then refined things further with dropping carbs, adding carbon, redesigning the fairing and seating... What will everyone say when the trellis frame goes bye bye in place of the all carbon airbox/frame member.

You can stand still and just make Harleys and pray to convince people they should have one cuz someone else has one... Or you can accept change as part of the evolution of the motorcycle and reap the benefits of such things as EFI, advanced engine castings, etc. Enjoy the bikes of today, rebuild the bikes of yesterday, but don't expect the bikes of tomorrow to look, taste, feel or act like the bikes you currently own... or you could just buy a Harley and ride the same damn thing since 1917 or whenever the hell they designed that out of balance potatoe noise maker.

I'm just your typical StreetFighter owner that loves to stir shit up. It's what we do. It's how we roll. It's a Euro3 thing where our brains run too lean until we get our attitude above 5k rpm

[indianfighter]

Originally Posted by Maximmagnum

Look at how far forward these pegs are...what a cruiser...oh wait

What a great pic, this guy is the best

[Tommy Toecutter]

Originally Posted by duck888ltd

I would like them to see them continue to sell performance oriented bikes. Not bikes for fat, lazy comfortable for the average buyer wannabees.

Lets see how long fad and market share can keep Ducati afloat compared to lifelong enthusiasts.

Ok, so are you saying that the bike that Ducati is testing will be fat and lazy (and comfortable? wouldn't be a true Duck unless your knees are up around your ears.) for average buyer wannabees?

or... are you trying to say that anyone that would consider buying the bike that Ducati is testing is a fat, lazy confortable (wtf?) average buyer wannabee?

Why do you think that anyone who might choose to buy a bike other than a Ducati is an average buyer wannabee? Is it the image of having Ducati that makes you feel superior to others?

LMAO How funny are you !

[flyinlow1]

Agree with Toecutter, what is the definition of a performance bike? If you ask a pro stock bike racer, you will get a much different definition than a MotoGP racer. Just because you don't like a particular class of performance, does not mean that the bike doesn't perform.

Look at all the different forms of auto racing. They are all performance machines, but very different. Bikes are the same way. If its not your cup of tea, so be it. I can remember when Ducati first came out with the Multistrada, and how people just loathed it because it was not a true performance oriented ("racing") bike, but it has done well for them.

I'm also old enough to remember when the first Monster came out. Again, the Ducati "purists" couldn't believe they were making this non-faired, "street" bike that had nothing to do with racing, and that worked out well.

Not saying this will sell or not, that remains to be seen. But an innovative company tries new things, sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. To be innovative, you can't be afraid to fail. Its how you handle the failure that is the key.

[flynbulldog]

What's innovative about another American style cruiser copy? - oh yeah - nothing...

[ttpete]

It's not a cruiser. Cruisers have forward controls, and you sit on your tailbone.

To me, it's what was known as a "standard". Semi-erect riding position, and the pegs are under the riders butt and kind of low. Semi-low bars. Think BMW bare "R" bikes of the 70s, or the original Honda 750-4.

[Tommy Toecutter]

Originally Posted by flynbulldog

What's innovative about another American style cruiser copy? - oh yeah - nothing...

You have stumbled across my point! This "Power Cruiser" market is a relatively new market imo. Not a copy of the typical HD cruiser.
There is as much difference between any HD and a VMax as there is between an '82 CX500 and a 1098. Worlds apart. Harley Davidson does not make anything that could be constituted as a Power Cruiser as none of their bikes turn/stop/handle/or even go hard. The technology to make a true Power Cruiser has only been developed in the last 5-6 or so years.

Were you just as offended when Ducati brought out the Multi? That is certainly not a racing bike and it was a significant step sideways from the traditional ethos.... The new one is a fantastic bike for the real world (not the track), derived from racing and implimented into a smart and practical design that appeals to many that would not have bought a Ducati before. The 0803 will do the same but for different folk.

Please understand that I know this is Ducati site and that the purists among you will want to defend the brand you so dealy love. Fair enough, I'm not trying to stir the pot.

I am sure that when my new 0803 arrives it will be light, nimble, grunty and a little bit wild, all within the relm of what the physics of the bike can provide (rake, wheelbase,rear section etc). And I can't wait!

(Very nice stable by the way )

[SquireSCA]

Originally Posted by flynbulldog

What's innovative about another American style cruiser copy? - oh yeah - nothing...

As has been pointed out several times, there is nothing about it that is "Cruiser copy".

That is just your fear that the part of your ego that urged you to buy a Ducati so that you could have bragging rights, might get slightly diluted if Ducati makes a bike to appeal to a different crowd.

As others have pointed out, Ducati has broken the mold a few times over the years despite the crying and wailing from the self-proclaimed "purists". Purist means resistant to change in this context.

The Monster was a radical change. The Multistrada was too, and the MTS1200 even more. The Hyper was a huge step away from the norm.

And yet all of these bikes have since been embraced, and Ducati didn't implode, and you will get just as many stares at bike night, so your ego should be intact.

There will be nothing Harley-esque about this bike, other than it has a fat rear tire and a relaxed riding position. It will probably weigh 200lbs less than any Harley, put out at least double the power, handle far better than any of us realize, and look damned sexy doing it.

What will you say when some day Ducati follows Aprilia and goes to a V4?

"Ohs noes, this isn't what I am used to!!!"

If you don't like it, don't buy it.

[Wonway]

I give up.

[Tommy Toecutter]

Originally Posted by SquireSCA

As has been pointed out several times, there is nothing about it that is "Cruiser copy".

That is just your fear that the part of your ego that urged you to buy a Ducati so that you could have bragging rights, might get slightly diluted if Ducati makes a bike to appeal to a different crowd.

As others have pointed out, Ducati has broken the mold a few times over the years despite the crying and wailing from the self-proclaimed "purists". Purist means resistant to change in this context.

The Monster was a radical change. The Multistrada was too, and the MTS1200 even more. The Hyper was a huge step away from the norm.

And yet all of these bikes have since been embraced, and Ducati didn't implode, and you will get just as many stares at bike night, so your ego should be intact.

There will be nothing Harley-esque about this bike, other than it has a fat rear tire and a relaxed riding position. It will probably weigh 200lbs less than any Harley, put out at least double the power, handle far better than any of us realize, and look damned sexy doing it.

What will you say when some day Ducati follows Aprilia and goes to a V4?

"Ohs noes, this isn't what I am used to!!!"

If you don't like it, don't buy it.

Well said.