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Old Nov 23rd, 2011, 7:04 am   #1 (permalink)
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Photoshoppers willing to do a favor?

Hey guys,


So I plan on painting my streetfighter s the winter, and am looking for some visualization help any help would be appreciated. Doesn't have to be perfect or anything.





Basically, I want one with everything that's painted on the rizoma bike white with a carbon (or black if it's easier) pinstripe going down the upper tail, carbon/black where it's red on the headlight, and white where it'd green on the front fender and white lowers with stripe



Second one, I'd like everything that is gold/green (besides the shocks) to be white in the attached pic, with a pin stripe on the lowers (carbon/black) and a pin stripe going through the upper tail, and through the tank side covers (infront of the seat so it makes a straight line from the upper I'd like the pinstripe to compliment the shape of the tail as much as possible.


Thanks a lot to whomever can help!


Cheers



p.s. this is the color white I'm lookin at


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Old Nov 23rd, 2011, 8:13 am   #2 (permalink)
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I would be careful. Once you paint that tank DNA may not cover it for ethanol issues.
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Old Nov 23rd, 2011, 11:45 am   #3 (permalink)
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I would be careful. Once you paint that tank DNA may not cover it for ethanol issues.
really? I'll check with my local dealership first.
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Old Nov 23rd, 2011, 3:57 pm   #4 (permalink)
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Just coat it. I purchase the caswell epoxy kit and did mine. Didn't take very long.

You just need to empty the tank, rinse it with acetone then warm water with dish water detergent. I also ran some screws in it as recommended to "mark" the walls (probably didn't even need that) and also use a bit of sand paper thru the pump opening to roughen the surface.

Once clean and prepped let it dry.

Mix the kit two epoxy components (I did two coats each half the content of the cans). It was a little cold so I probably should have added a dab of thinner (or acetone) in it so it was a bit more fluid inside but it worked out fine.
Just make sure you slowly turn the tank in all directions. Instructions tell you to seal the opening but I kept mine opened for the second coat so I could see where the epoxy was going (it runs real slow so it's not like it's going to just wash out... think about it as syrup.

Last but not least let it sit for a few days at least... If you bring your to the painter it'll probably be plenty dry by the time you're ready to reinstall it on the bike.
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Old Nov 23rd, 2011, 7:42 pm   #5 (permalink)
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Just coat it. I purchase the caswell epoxy kit and did mine. Didn't take very long.

You just need to empty the tank, rinse it with acetone then warm water with dish water detergent. I also ran some screws in it as recommended to "mark" the walls (probably didn't even need that) and also use a bit of sand paper thru the pump opening to roughen the surface.

Once clean and prepped let it dry.

Mix the kit two epoxy components (I did two coats each half the content of the cans). It was a little cold so I probably should have added a dab of thinner (or acetone) in it so it was a bit more fluid inside but it worked out fine.
Just make sure you slowly turn the tank in all directions. Instructions tell you to seal the opening but I kept mine opened for the second coat so I could see where the epoxy was going (it runs real slow so it's not like it's going to just wash out... think about it as syrup.

Last but not least let it sit for a few days at least... If you bring your to the painter it'll probably be plenty dry by the time you're ready to reinstall it on the bike.
caswell has stated that for plastic tanks you dont need to rinse with acetone or use the screws. just need to make sure to rinse with dishwashing soap and cold water. warm water will be absorbed by the tank faster.

after you wash it, make sure you let it dry and shrink down over a couple of days in a dry place. you want to make sure that all the absorbed water has gotten out of the tank before you coat it.

caswell reccomends max 1oz of lacquer thinner to make it easier to apply... will increase set time though so you'll be spreading it around even longer.
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Old Nov 23rd, 2011, 8:35 pm   #6 (permalink)
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caswell has stated that for plastic tanks you dont need to rinse with acetone or use the screws.
Not from what I understood it.

Here are the instructions:

Preparation
1. All traces of oil and gasoline should first be removed by pouring about 1 pint of acetone or lacquer thinner into the tank, and rotating the tank several
times to thoroughly sluice the sides with solvent. Dispose of the contaminated solution. Allow to dry.
2. Rinse the tank with Dawn Dish Soap and Hot Water. Rinse and allow to thoroughly dry.
3. ADDITIONAL STEP FOR ALUMINUM TANKS: Add two tablespoons of LYE (Drano) to one gallon of water. ADD LYE TO WATER, NOT WATER TO
LYE. WEAR PROTECTIVE GEAR. Slosh the solution around in the tank for 30 seconds. Pour solution out and dispose. Rinse with water and pour
off. Add 8oz of vinegar into a quart of water and slosh around in tank for 30 seconds. This neutralizes the lye. Pour off and rinse with water. Allow to
dry.
4. Place a hand full of drywall screws with about a pint of acetone or lacquer thinner into the tank and shake them around vigorously for several minutes.
These will dislodge any loose particles of rust, and in the case of plastic/fiberglass, rough up the surface. Dispose of the contaminated solution.
Allow to dry.
5. Apply duct tape or masking tape to any weeping seams, holes or porous areas. This will stop any Gas Tank Sealer from oozing out, and will allow it to
bridge over the hole. Plug the outlet ports with putty or Play-Doh.


Probably not a huge deal nor do I think it would make significant difference but the idea is to get the inside as clean and gas free as possible. Giving it plenty of time to dry is the key IMO.
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I suggest either not using the drywall screws, or at least using very long ones. They will get lodged in the recesses at the bottom of the tank and where the rear mount is and be impossible to dig out (Luckily I counted the screws twice before putting them in, and managed to get the last 10 un-stuck by swashing around water in the tank for about an hour and a half. Nerve-wracking...). Plus, the screws did little to rough up the surface.

If I had to do it again I would get some 36 grit sandpaper and just rough up whatever I could reach. Maybe attach the sandpaper to the end of a flex extension and shove it around in there. The most important areas for adhesion will be around the filler and pump openings, since that's where gas could conceivably work its way between the coating and the tank wall.
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Hey guys,

Basically, I want one with everything that's painted on the rizoma bike white with a carbon (or black if it's easier) pinstripe going down the upper tail, carbon/black where it's red on the headlight, and white where it'd green on the front fender and white lowers with stripe


DID I DO IT RITE?!?!?!?!
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did I do it rite?!?!

That's fucking funny dude! I have laughed my ass off. Brilliant.
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Old Nov 24th, 2011, 5:26 am   #10 (permalink)
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quality! But seriously can anyone help me out. Also, why would I coat it instead of painting? Wouldn't coating effect the warranty the same as painting?
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