[Gilly]

Quick question, do you remember if o2 sensors could be disabled prior to changing to the DP mapping?

On the Hyper, it is a different deal. I have no idea what the DP status gives/removes from the bike. I know that the software has a remove O2 sensors selection.

So did you also purchase the OBD2/Fiat 3 Pin or are you just using the Tuneboy cable?

As far as licensing goes... the license file JP gives you only needs to be placed into the folder that hold the DucatiDiag software inside your programs folder. There is no code to enter.

 

[iguanamafia]

On the Hyper, it is a different deal. I have no idea what the DP status gives/removes from the bike. I know that the software has a remove O2 sensors selection.

So did you also purchase the OBD2/Fiat 3 Pin or are you just using the Tuneboy cable?

As far as licensing goes... the license file JP gives you only needs to be placed into the folder that hold the DucatiDiag software inside your programs folder. There is no code to enter.

I'm still using the Tuneboy cable and everything works except the map up/downloads. JP told me he never programmed the other cable drivers to work with the map up/download. So if that is anyone's intention, they need the cable you have (OBD2/Fiat 3 Pin).

Makes sense about the unlock code, I didn't know WTF happened. All of a sudden it worked. LOL

 

[Drinky]

I already had the black FIAT cable, today I received the OBD but couldn't get a connection even though I had the right COM port, well, seems that my FIAT pin was faulty. Even the damn croc. clamp detached from the wiring :O

Guess I'll have to wait a bit longer

 

[Gilly]

I already had the black FIAT cable, today I received the OBD but couldn't get a connection even though I had the right COM port, well, seems that my FIAT pin was faulty. Even the damn croc. clamp detached from the wiring :O

Guess I'll have to wait a bit longer

Stuff happens!



Sent from my iPone

 

[Drinky]

finally got my new cable in and this one works. For the hypermotard I used a spare 12V battery I had laying around to connect the cable to. Now just waitin gfor the license

 

[Gilly]

finally got my new cable in and this one works. For the hypermotard I used a spare 12V battery I had laying around to connect the cable to. Now just waitin gfor the license

FYI, Competition systems sells ECU plug ends.. Not sure if you care about it long term or not. I would just keep an eye out for a crappy main harness, that would be the ideal setup. I am assuming you are going for the tuning with the ECU off the bike.

I've had ZERO issues with the DP flash to my hyper... it's been at least a few hundred miles since the flash. While I'm not a big fan of the Gunsen Gastester, it does work... you just have to be patient to get the baseline reading.

Keep us informed!

 

[zvez]

Bill be sure to vid next week at the track!

Chris

FYI, Competition systems sells ECU plug ends.. Not sure if you care about it long term or not. I would just keep an eye out for a crappy main harness, that would be the ideal setup. I am assuming you are going for the tuning with the ECU off the bike.

I've had ZERO issues with the DP flash to my hyper... it's been at least a few hundred miles since the flash. While I'm not a big fan of the Gunsen Gastester, it does work... you just have to be patient to get the baseline reading.

Keep us informed!

 

[Drinky]

FYI, Competition systems sells ECU plug ends.. Not sure if you care about it long term or not. I would just keep an eye out for a crappy main harness, that would be the ideal setup. I am assuming you are going for the tuning with the ECU off the bike.

I've had ZERO issues with the DP flash to my hyper... it's been at least a few hundred miles since the flash. While I'm not a big fan of the Gunsen Gastester, it does work... you just have to be patient to get the baseline reading.

Keep us informed!

No, I won't be doing any flashing soon.

I just did a TPS reset, reset the service indicator and adjusted the fuel trim to about 0.95 lambda( 4,5% CO). Bike isn't jerky anymore and has a bit more grunt down low.

The baseline lambda value for the DP ecu was 1.2, which is way too lean.

 

[Jono1000]

Sorry may have missed this on the thread somewhere, but does the cable and software work with EVO Hypers?

 

[Gilly]

Sorry may have missed this on the thread somewhere, but does the cable and software work with EVO Hypers?

You will have to MP (PM in english) JP to see where he is at with that. Sign up on the DucatiDiag site and leave him a message. Some hold ups are due to him not having a bike to test on, so when a local person can provide a bike he usually puts it to good use! Keep in mind he is also working on the older ECU's as well. Many people are interested in what can be done with those.

 

[Gilly]

ECU Writer Update

Below are the versions that JP has updated... newest is up top "Xc"
A big change would be the ability to FIX the speedo!!!
FYI, Writer is something you purchase via paypal from JP, the DucatiDiag is still Free.

WriterXc.exe
-Add speedo correction function, it works Some iaw5 ecu (st3, 749.999 ...)

WriterWc.exe Software name-rewrite function fixed *****

WriterVc.exe
Change color of textbox edititable -Modified a bug if wrong format MFD HAS **** ****

writerUc
forget RPM edit **** ****

writerTc
Add FANL trigger for 59 5M ECU & map-name Integrate Into ecu edit info on lambda-Solve bug detection (ebi notice)

writerRc
Display welcome message

writerqc
Keep original date by default tool and, if it Can Be edited box are checked.

writerpc
Add-rpm limits edit edit-Map name (not working on iaw59) -Lambda Improved detection function Improved-Immo


EDIT: Since it was late here in the US and morning over there in France... sent JP a little gift $ and was able to get the license for the SF. So I will see about fixing the speedo on both the Hyper and the SF... need to make sure how far it is off with the GPS first. Thanks JP!!

 

[Gilly]

Speedo Correction, not so good...

So I got my other license for the SF with the "Writer" software.
JP's latest reWrite of Writer allows for changing the soft and hard limiter RPM, disable O2, immobilzer, dash message, and the reason I ponied up... to adjust the accuracy of the speedo.

So I downloaded the latest version, got my license back from JP and today I uploaded the changes to the ECU.

Just rolling out of the driveway, my traction control started kicking in just from off idle at 10mph. hmm wtf?

It would then settle down, I took it around the block and it was kicking in again at low speeds. I had DTC set at 4. Pulled over, turned DTC off.

Otherwise bike behaved normal. Opened her up to see if I hit the rev limiter. Seems that went fine...

Posted back to JP about it. We'll see what comes of it. I uploaded the clean map back to the bike, everything is back as it was. JP is currently working on some things for the 1198. I asked him about the 796 Sieman ECU and his reply was that unless he has someone who can lend him a bike to sniff out the ECU... well you get the drift.

Just wanted to let y'all know in case someone got all excited about the previous post.

Has anyone with an S model used the speedo correction thingies out there. I was curious if it Effed with traction control as well. That speedo healer thing and that other unit... those are the only two I know of.

 

[ttpete]

So I got my other license for the SF with the "Writer" software.
JP's latest reWrite of Writer allows for changing the soft and hard limiter RPM, disable O2, immobilzer, dash message, and the reason I ponied up... to adjust the accuracy of the speedo.

So I downloaded the latest version, got my license back from JP and today I uploaded the changes to the ECU.

Just rolling out of the driveway, my traction control started kicking in just from off idle at 10mph. hmm wtf?

It would then settle down, I took it around the block and it was kicking in again at low speeds. I had DTC set at 4. Pulled over, turned DTC off.

Otherwise bike behaved normal. Opened her up to see if I hit the rev limiter. Seems that went fine...

Posted back to JP about it. We'll see what comes of it. I uploaded the clean map back to the bike, everything is back as it was. JP is currently working on some things for the 1198. I asked him about the 796 Sieman ECU and his reply was that unless he has someone who can lend him a bike to sniff out the ECU... well you get the drift.

Just wanted to let y'all know in case someone got all excited about the previous post.

Has anyone with an S model used the speedo correction thingies out there. I was curious if it Effed with traction control as well. That speedo healer thing and that other unit... those are the only two I know of.

The DTC compares the speed of the front wheel with the speedo reading. When you corrected the speedo, the two speeds didn't agree any longer, and the DTC kicked in as it is supposed to do. You can have a corrected speedo or traction control, but you can't have both at the same time.

 

[Gilly]

The DTC compares the speed of the front wheel with the speedo reading. When you corrected the speedo, the two speeds didn't agree any longer, and the DTC kicked in as it is supposed to do. You can have a corrected speedo or traction control, but you can't have both at the same time.

JP is looking into it. Seeing how there are two wheel sensors, if you can correct one, maybe you can correct both. Discovered yesterday that the program screen had inverted the "+ and -", so I was adjusting it in the opposite direction needed, which made the DTC freak out.

It is adjusted to the other direction, and speedo is nearer to correct. But like stated, at the cost of less intervention of DTC. If the front wheel sensor can be adjusted, maybe the rear wheel sensor can be adjusted. If so then if adjusted the same towards true speed, DTC would not be affected. Who knows if he can work it out. But that is where things are at.

 

[Gilly]

Oh My GoProHD and Ram Mount in use...

Had the chance to ride along as a camera bike for a cycling ride. I used the GoProHD with two different ram mounts to capture the video. Excuse my music choices... it's free shit that comes with iMovie FFS!!! This is on my Hyper.
Enjoy...

 

[Wonway]

Be safe out there
Share the road
And ride something FFS!

LOL!

You should have pulled a stick in the spokes Indiana Jones style

Seriously, nice job!

 

[Gilly]

Be safe out there
Share the road
And ride something FFS!

LOL!

You should have pulled a stick in the spokes Indiana Jones style

Seriously, nice job!

9 Hours to upload! WTF!>!??!?
It was a beautiful morning for riding. No one except us and a few police cars. Initial shot was off the front frame member, then moved the camera to the handle bar. I have the extended ram arm and just had it tight enough not to slip, but I could turn and pivot it. I'm thinking of butchering one of those tiny tripods and getting a ram ball mount onto one. That would allow smooth pans.

Im still giggling over the Indiana Jones joke, although Gary Hype and Phil may not think it so.

 

[zvez]

First rate quality Bill!

Bill thought about you when I saw this vid. An RSV4, he set up his go pro to view the suspension, he wanted to see how much of it he was using:

Chris

 

[Gilly]

First rate quality Bill!

Bill thought about you when I saw this vid. An RSV4, he set up his go pro to view the suspension, he wanted to see how much of it he was using: suspension - YouTube
Chris

Sweet post Chris! I did some work on another mount. Taking a mini tripod head and grafting it to one of my spare ram ball plates. This should allow for smooth pans and tilts along with the addition of the pan tilt arm. For the cycling video, I was grabbing the GoPro, and had just enough drag on the arm to allow movement... but it's rubber and not something that wants to move smoothly.

 

[3-stroke]

More DucatiDiag feedback

This looked to be as good a spot for additional info as any, since Bill's experiences with DucatiDiag and posts over on their bb are what convinced me to try it.

I had the Double Dog Moto 134DD full system in the box through the break-in on my SF848, as I wanted to keep everything bone-stock during that time (mechanically).

My experience with the bike in stock form, (with standard cans and ecu) was good but I could tell there was a lot more in there being held back by the fueling and restrictive oem exhaust.

I took some time Saturday to install the exhaust, then took a ride to see how it behaved on the stock ecu.......not terribly impressive of course, since it's so damn lean anyway and the new system just exacerbated that condition (sounded good though!)

With that baseline fresh in mind, I fired the DP 70mm full system map in using JP's program, disabled the exvl and lambda's that I'd just removed, reset the TPS, and changed the dashboard message while I was in there.

By that time it was after dark, so Sunday morning I headed out for a test-run (sorry neighbors!). I'm going to try very hard not to overstate the effects, but I think it's fair to say the bike was transformed.

The 3k-4.5k range was much improved, with the majority of the surging and hunting at light load/steady throttle eliminated, and pulling off from a dead stop was much easier, with less rpm and clutch slipping needed (stock 15t front for the moment).

The biggest improvement came in the 5k-8k range, where it pulled so much harder than stock I was grinning for the rest of the ride, powering the front up into a long 2nd gear floater with the DTC flashing here and there.

I don't know what its like above 8k, since I'm trying to be gentle still, but from how it felt there I'd be surprised if it didn't keep getting better up top.

The map is not perfect by any means, it feels and smells a tad rich at the bottom and may need a little more above 7k, but there are no flat spots big enough for the butt-dyno to detect, and throttle response down low is so much smoother I can choose between "launch it" and "cruise it" gears for corner exits without all the f-ing drama I had to deal with prior to the flash.

JP was right there with guidance and advice, even before I bought the Writer software license and even with only a year's worth of french in school I didn't have any trouble finding the info I needed.

mandatory disclaimer: If you are not prepared to invest the time and effort to do this right, look to your favorite tuner for solutions instead. You need to be able to think for yourself, take good notes, check and double-check your order of operations, and FOLLOW DIRECTIONS for this to work. If you're this kind of person and like doing things yourself, it's a cake-walk.

I'm going to get some seat time on this configuration in different riding situations, then decide if it's good as-is, needs tweaking of the maps and/or CO trims, or needs to be replaced with the Nemesis+dyno tune I have (had?) planned.

For the investment, being able to reset wrench, reset TPS, read trouble codes, mod startup message, test fans/injectors/pump/etc, and flash a DP ecu in was easily worth many tiimes what I have in it.