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Mar 16th, 2010, 2:17 pm
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Motul oil issue!
I just recently performed an oil change on my 848 (..from the OEM Shell to Motul) and I am now experiencing clutch slippage. It is occuring in every gear, and is especially noticeable during roll-on at 60-70 mph (..even in 6th gear). Has anybody experienced this issue with Motul before? I'm very unhappy with this product and am considering going back to AMSoil (..which is what I used on my previous bike). Any suggestions? Thanks guys!
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Mar 17th, 2010, 8:58 pm
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FWIW, any clutch that slips, will be more noticeable in the highest gear(s). It should slip the least in 1st, and most noticeable in 6th. True for cars, too.
The only way to see if it is the oil is to go back to what you were using.
If that cures the slipping, then you should ask Motul for your $$$'s back.
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Mar 17th, 2010, 9:31 pm
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Which Motul oil did you use? 5100? 300v?
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Apr 14th, 2010, 10:01 am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan
I just recently performed an oil change on my 848 (..from the OEM Shell to Motul) and I am now experiencing clutch slippage. It is occuring in every gear, and is especially noticeable during roll-on at 60-70 mph (..even in 6th gear). Has anybody experienced this issue with Motul before? I'm very unhappy with this product and am considering going back to AMSoil (..which is what I used on my previous bike). Any suggestions? Thanks guys!
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Try ELF Sport 4 Campione 10W60 or Elf 4 XT Tech 10W50. they are both JASSO MA and you will have no clutch slippage problems.
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Apr 14th, 2010, 10:38 am
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I got some Shell Rotella T6 (JASO MA spec!) that I'll be trying at my next oil change.
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Ohlins Supersport FGK 1322 25mm Fork Cartridges w/5mm Upper Extensions | Ohlins TTX | Termi Slip-Ons | Ducabike Rearsets | DP FG Gubellini Damper w/Special 1098 Collar | DP Solo Seat | 1Carbontech HeatGuard / KeyGuard / Fender / Hugger / IntakeRunners | Fabbri Screen | Speedymoto Triple / Frame Sliders | Evoluzione 28mm Slave | ASV levers | Sargent Seat | Oberon Mirror Ext. | Driven 14T Sprocket | Motovation BarEnds / Fork Sliders | Rizoma AVIO-21 signals | Heated Grips wired to Euro Duc999 Controls | DDM 35w 5k HID's | Cox Case / Rad Guards | MotoReva RAM Mount | TechSpec Grips
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Apr 15th, 2010, 8:55 pm
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As long as the oil doesnt have any friction modifier additives in it, I cant see that affecting the clutch. Any motorcycle specific oil will never have any of the friction modifiers in it. If you look at the back of the bottle where the API label is, if it says "energy conserving" it will have the friction modifiers in it,
that might cause your wet clutch to slip. If it doesnt say that, you are safe
to use that oil in any wet clutch bike.
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May 10th, 2010, 5:54 am
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If it's just started from the oil change then you put the wrong oil in!!!!! Motul have a very good product
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May 13th, 2010, 12:40 pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gg996
As long as the oil doesnt have any friction modifier additives in it, I cant see that affecting the clutch. Any motorcycle specific oil will never have any of the friction modifiers in it. If you look at the back of the bottle where the API label is, if it says "energy conserving" it will have the friction modifiers in it,
that might cause your wet clutch to slip. If it doesnt say that, you are safe
to use that oil in any wet clutch bike.
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The rating you are looking for is the Jasso MA rating on the back of the bottle. If it has this rating then you should have no problems with clutch slippage because of the lubricant.
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Last edited by erikesp; May 13th, 2010 at 12:58 pm.
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