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Old Nov 5th, 2006, 8:25 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Speaking of chain lube...

The stuff is ALL OVER the back of my poor filthy 749. This crap resists wiping off, it just smears, and there's way too much of it. Motul Chain Lube...never again.

Anyhoo, what's the recommendations for spray on/hose off cleaners? Is there a better alternative to, say, Simple Green and a stiff brush? My bike's a mess...Help!
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Old Nov 5th, 2006, 8:55 pm   #2 (permalink)
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I really like S100 products and have been unable to find their chain cleaner here in the US. I use a dollar store sprayer bottle with kerosene for cleaning up road tar and chain lube. 1 gallon is about 3 bucks and will last a long time. Just like Simple Green you would have to wax your bikes painted parts when done.
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Old Nov 5th, 2006, 9:08 pm   #3 (permalink)
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Mineral Spirits. Cheap at about $3/gallon. It won't hurt paint etc.
At your local hardware. Just look for it in the paint thinner aisle.
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Old Nov 5th, 2006, 9:09 pm   #4 (permalink)
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Cool...thanks guys!

I don't spend much time washing my bike. Today was a good example: Got up thinking about pulling an "all dayer", cause it's filthy in all the hard-to-reach spots, then thought, "Sod It! I'm going riding!" It gets the Honda Polish wipe down, and basically is shiney, but the rear wheel and under bits are gross. Time to clean that poor thing...REALLY clean it!
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Old Nov 5th, 2006, 9:18 pm   #5 (permalink)
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Mineral Spirits. Cheap at about $3/gallon. It won't hurt paint etc.
At your local hardware. Just look for it in the paint thinner aisle.
+1 And, if you look carefully, for a couple cents more per can, you can get it "odorless" or "low odor" ...so you don't smell like a refinery when you're done.
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Old Nov 5th, 2006, 9:53 pm   #6 (permalink)
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Ordinary, everyday 1 dollar can of chinese wd40 stuff.. Anything marked Water Dispersant. Go to the local walmart copy auto store. Spray it on the rag and all the gunk comes right off. no scrubbing no water plus it leaves a shine on the rim and the can lasts ages..

You could use it to wipe down the chain too, but I don't. I lube mine then using a clean rag just run the chain through the rag and whip off all the excess. It only needs to be on the inner and rollers. I'm not a very neat sprayer.. hahah

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Old Nov 6th, 2006, 2:49 am   #7 (permalink)
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Problem with Motul chain lube

I use Motul and have no issues with it. I spray it on a clean chain and wipe
the excess off right away. I let it sit for a half hour or so before I ride so it stiffens up and no problem. There are the spots here and there but that is about it. I clean my rims and chain with Kerosine.
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Auto-Lubing, the lazy way......

Speaking of chainlube....... over the years I have tried most types of lube and they all fling, they all collect grit & dirt (which turns to a grinding paste) and they all make a mess of your bike.

I'm fairly good with maintenance on bikes but lubing chains is one of those jobs that always got 'overlooked' and then 'overdone' when I got round to doing it, so my chain was either dry & dirty or swimming in lube - not good for chain life.

So a few years back when I was at a bike show they had the 'Scottoiler' http://www.scottoiler.com on sale and I bought one. I was a bit dubious at first with fitting it to a sportbike, particularly about where to fit it etc but now that I've got it I think it's great - the rear wheel still gets lube on it (the oil is thin though and wipes off easily) but, I don't need to manually lube the chain and hardly ever clean it as the oil both lubes and cleans constantly.

Scottoil claim much extended chain/sprocket life and that is definitely true, I fitted the oiler at around 10,000 miles to an already 'tired' chain and when I swapped the chain at around 12-13,000 miles it was finished (I had to run it really loose to overcome the big tightspot).

My present chain, which has been oiled by the oiler all it's life has around 9 -10,000 miles on it and is still in fairly good condition with no noticable tightspot.

The only maintenance the oiler requires is topping up with oil and occasional checking & adjustment of the 'injector' (needs adjusting when tightening chain due to the close proximity of the chain).

Fitting is fairly easy, the only issue was getting the injector into the correct position - ie close enough to work but not to get 'eaten' by the rear sprocket and I did have to make brackets and work on this a little, otherwise it's just fit the oil bottle and connect it to one of the throttle bodies to give it the required vacuum (it works on intake vacuum - more intake = more oil) if you do get one make sure you use the dual-sided injector as the single one only lubes one side of the chain so you need more flow to lube and the inside still gets underlubed (I tried this first).

The only issue in operation is that the flow of oil varies with temperature, so on a cold day it may be lubed less than a hot day, this has been reported as a problem by some riders - however as I fitted the bottle under the seat, where the temperature is always HOT, I find that the outside temperature has little effect on it but I do need to use the high temperature oil, which is thicker and then set the flow quite low to get just the right amount - I like it so that the chain is always just 'moist' with oil - anymore and it's all over my wheel & exhaust, any less and the chain dries out.

Anyway if, like me, you're 'Lube-lazy' then this is a good solution, I believe that there are other automatic oilers available that do the same job but I'm happy with the Scottoiler.

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'Injector' fitted to rear sprocket - note it is dual sided and therefore drips oil on to the sprocket/chain on both sides;



Another view showing the 'Injector' and the oil line routing alongside brakeline;



Oil bottle under seat (next to injetion relays), easy to top-up and kept at a fairly constant temperature by the ever-present exhaust heat;





BTW my next job is to clean the bike.....

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^Excellent looking set-up!!

I looked into scottoiler last winter, but thought it wasn't going to be pretty on a superbike, so I opted for a rattle-can spray.. Now you're making me have second thoughts.

Clean the bike? *bleh* you should see mine..
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Old Nov 6th, 2006, 2:20 pm   #10 (permalink)
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I use Motul, and I've found the trick. Just lube at the end of the ride. The chain is warm so it soaks in better. Then all the solvent evaporates by the time of the next ride. Less fling.

I also tried waxing my rims. It makes the lube come off easier. Looks great too.

Then I got frustrated because if I use solvent (WD-40, acetone, mineral spirits, etc.) to clean the lube off the rims, then it takes off the wax too. I'm also not thrilled at the thought of how that treats the rim paint. So I tried using car wax to clean the lube off the rims. Voila! It doesn't dissolve the lube as well as mineral spirits, but I get to lube and wax at the same time. Now I have the prettiest rims around. Its funny how people notice the rims first.
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