» Site Navigation |
|
»
»
»
» Motorcycle Forums
|
|
 |
|
Feb 9th, 2007, 8:49 pm
|
#1 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Atwater, CA, USA
Posts: 345
|
Clutchless shifting??
I had a buddy say he only uses his clutch for first gear, not for upshifts. Is he nuts? I always clutch, ever hear of this??
__________________
2006 Ducati 999s
2002 Ducati ST4s (traded)
2001 Ducati ST2 (sold)
2002 H-D FXSTDI Deuce (for sale)
1989 Honda GB500 Tourist Trophy (sold)
2009 Yamaha FZ6R (wife's)
|
|
|
|
Sponsored Links
|
Advertisement
|
|
Feb 9th, 2007, 9:27 pm
|
#2 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Northwest, Alabama, USA
Posts: 269
|
'bout the same as what I do, only I clutch for downshifting (just to be specific). Lots of guys I know do that.
__________________
'04 999
|
|
|
Feb 9th, 2007, 9:32 pm
|
#3 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Montoursville, Pa, USA
Posts: 205
|
Not using the clutch for upshifts is ok. What happens is the power going to the main shaft in the tranny is not spinning as fast as the gears. So there is not real lashing of the gears when you shift. Now down shifting is when you rin into problems. There is a heavy load when you shift down with out the clutch. The lower gears are spinning faster than the tranny shaft. That caruses then to grind when you shift. Basically after a while of that you will end up stripping the gears out.
__________________
|
|
|
Feb 9th, 2007, 9:43 pm
|
#4 (permalink)
|
|
Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: melbourne beach, fl, usa
Posts: 86
|
Yep, hardly ever use the clutch upshifting. I just back off the throttle for a mili-second and grab the upshift. Backing off unloads the trans and it goes right into the next gear. Quik shifters/power shifters, like the ones dyno jet and others sell does basically the same thing except electronically. When you move the shift lever, the quik shifter shuts off the fuel, or ignition, or a combo of both to unload the trans and allow the gear change to occur.
But like the others said this is for up-shifts only.
|
|
|
Feb 9th, 2007, 10:51 pm
|
#5 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Fremont, CA, U.S.A.
Posts: 787
|
Up or down i've never had any problems ,, just match the revs with a slight pause as you go . The only time i really use it is at stops and starts .
__________________
2001 ST2
998sFE
|
|
|
Feb 9th, 2007, 11:04 pm
|
#6 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Old Rome, Decomposed, Reincarnate
Posts: 990
|
shift away
shifting without clutch
quite often I'll shift without both ways, up and down. some of the downs
can be a little jerky but not often. sometimes my hand hurts a little from using the clutch, so it's a handy thing to learn, if you'll pardon the pun
Mal
__________________
**********
I only lack THREE things to be a GP rider....
Talent, Ambition and Initiative
"Ergost yellicium mosticom finae speddicullus maximisan. Despitate ducati ergoni matchello"
|
|
|
Feb 9th, 2007, 11:40 pm
|
#7 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Elk Grove, CA,
Posts: 242
|
Yup. Not a problem, up or down. I do use it to go 1-2, tho, as it can get kinda jerky if I'm not mindful.
__________________
06 Sport1000 05 GSXR750
03 DRZ400S 99 CBR900RR (wife's)
93 CBR600F2 (in pieces)
_____________________________________________
www.ducati-owners-group.com
|
|
|
Feb 9th, 2007, 11:55 pm
|
#8 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 538
|
clutchless here on nearly all upshifts, but mostly into 3,4,5 and 6.
Clutch all the time on downshifts.
|
|
|
Feb 10th, 2007, 12:48 am
|
#9 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Roy, WA,
Posts: 205
|
Ive done both up/down shift w/o clutch. Some days however, I will use the clutch for every up/down shift. depends how I feel.
Downshifting you have to put downpressure on the shifter, when it matches ie: engine speed/tranny speed, it shifts by itself. However if you are going to fast, you can lock a rear tire up. Don't ask how i know this
__________________
97 748/853
96 900 SS/SP
Molon Labe
|
|
|
Feb 10th, 2007, 2:52 am
|
#10 (permalink)
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Bolivar, Ohio, USA
Posts: 11
|
One more for upshifts
I use the clutch on downshifts mostly, hardly at all on upshifts...
__________________
Cheers,
Bill
'99 900 Supersport
|
|
|
| Sponsored Links |
Advertisement
|
|
 |
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|