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View Poll Results: Is Ethanol Truly Harmful to a Ducati?
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A. No harm - Ethanol is fine.
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4 |
6.15% |
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B. Minimal Harm, best to avoid, but quit sweating it if not available.
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30 |
46.15% |
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C. Moderate Harm - Make serious effort to not use.
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24.62% |
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D. In an emergency, pump 1/2 gallon and get to another station.
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6 |
9.23% |
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E. Never use it.
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13.85% |
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Nov 16th, 2011, 12:52 pm
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Oklahoma City, OK, USA
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Bottom Line: Ethanol a real danger?
Id like to get some feedback. But let's all concede that non-ethanol is ideal. On my new MTS it states it wants 95 Octane too! I live in two areas - one I can get non-ethanol but only 91 octane, the other is near impossible and has 93. I do have one station that sells 95 and 100+ but its $5-10/gal. Performance is certainly ideal with non-ethanol higher octane. And I am tired of stations that dont clearly disclose until you give the pump a thorough examination after you stop.
But....
Is ethanol a real danger to the MECHANICS of the bike?
A. No harm - Ethanol is fine.
B. Minimal Harm, best to avoid, but quit sweating it if not available.
C. Moderate Harm - Make serious effort to not use.
D. In an emergency, pump 1/2 gallon and get to another station.
E. Never use it.
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Nov 16th, 2011, 12:59 pm
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Derby, Vermont, USA
Posts: 1,393
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European 95 octane is US 87 or 89 octane. Use Seaform and 87 octane, 89 if running high comp pistons. Check Hall of Wisdom.
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Nov 16th, 2011, 1:04 pm
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Oklahoma City, OK, USA
Posts: 40
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Thanks VTGPDUC. You would think the US Version of the owners manual would be more clear on this topic....but then again, I still have to convert bars to psi when reading.
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Nov 16th, 2011, 1:09 pm
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Humble
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lowville, NY, USA
Posts: 13,050
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Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada
Ethanol sucks. If I can get Ethanol-Free I use it. If I can't, I won't lose sleep over it, but I'm lucky to have a station close to me that carries 91 octane for about a dollar more a gallon than the regular shit.
That link I posted is user-maintained, so do your part...
As far as octane, that's a different thing altogether and VTGPDUC has the answer covered.
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Nov 16th, 2011, 1:39 pm
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Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,124
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OKCDuc
...But....Is ethanol a real danger to the MECHANICS of the bike?...
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As long as there's no direct skin contact for extended periods of time, and as long as they work in well ventilated areas, they should be okay.
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Nov 16th, 2011, 2:11 pm
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Derby, Vermont, USA
Posts: 1,393
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BTW I prefer my ethanol cold with some olives.
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2006 749S (resurrected)
1995 900SSSP/track bike
2001 750SS/"rain bike"
1975 CB400F/Yoshima
1996 CR250R
2005 CR85R (for sale, still)
1971 Bultaco-project
2000 Z50R
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Nov 16th, 2011, 2:25 pm
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Retirement is on the horizon
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,040
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I try not to support the ethanol industry. I believe it is the worst possible use for available oil and farmland in the US.
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Nov 16th, 2011, 3:44 pm
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Old Cafe Racer
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,818
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Brisbane motorists have voted with their wallets:
Queensland motorists dudded as fuel retailers pull ethanol blend petrol from service stations | Courier Mail
Bob Katter is a maverick north Queensland independent MP who represents a rural area, where I also live (read largly sugar cane farming electorate) so his comments are not really balanced.
The pumps are really being pulled because no-one wants to buy the bloody stuff.
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Nov 16th, 2011, 3:58 pm
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Humble
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lowville, NY, USA
Posts: 13,050
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What mean-um "Dudded"?
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Nov 16th, 2011, 4:06 pm
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Coventry, CT, USA
Posts: 1,480
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I voted "B", only because I don't know for sure and nothing else fit my situation. If I had the option not to use it where I live, I wouldn't. Although I have to admit that fact is probably based on my ideology more than the knowledge of any damage it may cause. My Duc has a metal tank, however!
I will say this much. I recently started using Star Tron in every fill up. I keep a 4oz measured bottle under the seat now. The bike just runs better than it has in recent memory with the juice. Maybe it ran this way back in 06-07 when the E10 crap first came out in South East VA where I was living at the time, but I don’t know...
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